KSP2 vs KSP1 with mods?

[BSNB]

What are some good reasons to move onto ksp2 from ksp1 with tons of mods? I play career mode only in ksp1 with tons of mods including life support mods.

[sunnypunny]

LOL "core of the game"

the core loop has been in this game from day 1 - the semi-realistic spaceflight/building.

the mod frameworks are all there now as well bc the KSP2 modders began working on that from day 1, and never stopped for a year.

weird how these ksp stans can't see what's right in front of them? i guess they have some other agenda in here, like simply trashing the game and undermining the significant amounts of work put in by a lot of ppl... simply bc they don't have the same name as their established ksp modders, all of whom left the scene years ago.

[Dr.Bourinos]

引用自 BSNB：

引用自 Dr.Bourinos：

Yes, but that is likely to shift if KSP2 quality increases over time, I mean heck, right now the KSP1 playerbase is more than double the KSP2 one...
As long as the core of the game isn't in place, modders won't move to the newer one as it's simply not worth it for the moment.

This feels like cs1 vs cs2. It boggles my mind why people would move away from the first one in favor of the sequel right now. I get some might not want to bother modding, but it is so easy with ckan.

That very likely boils down to people probably not being aware of how huge KSP1 is and how even larger KSP1 is with mods. Or simply newcomers that don't know anything about the genre and saw the trailers and just bought it upon that info.

[sunnypunny]

imo it's totally cool for ksp modders to check out of the scene, ksp died years ago and there's nothing new or interesting for them to add any more, there's no future in it. plus, they already put in huge amounts of work, but these stans still expect them to swoop in and put in hundreds more hours all over again. why would they? the backend is completely different, they have to relearn a whole new framework just to redo something that has already been done, and then risk it breaking in every game update. if i was a ksp modder i wouldn't touch this game either tbh, this one is for a newer generation. u would think the stans might at least accept that, if not try to support newer modders, but all they're interested in is trashing newer efforts and this game in general due to their mid life crisis.

[sunnypunny]

what the stans have zero understanding of is the backend of this game and how it compares to their precious prequel, which was about as easy to mod as a game can be. this game's backend adds a significant increase in complexity due to the multiplayer support and background processing, which were planned and implemented in the backend from the beginning. ksp modders coming to ksp2 have a significant learning curve ahead of them, and having gone through that process i would totally understand if ksp modders had no interest in it, and would never expect them to.

[BSNB]

引用自 Dr.Bourinos：

引用自 BSNB：

This feels like cs1 vs cs2. It boggles my mind why people would move away from the first one in favor of the sequel right now. I get some might not want to bother modding, but it is so easy with ckan.

That very likely boils down to people probably not being aware of how huge KSP1 is and how even larger KSP1 is with mods. Or simply newcomers that don't know anything about the genre and saw the trailers and just bought it upon that info.

It seems some people just need the new, 'shiny' version even if it isn't up to par with the old one.

[Dr.Bourinos]

引用自 BSNB：

引用自 Dr.Bourinos：

That very likely boils down to people probably not being aware of how huge KSP1 is and how even larger KSP1 is with mods. Or simply newcomers that don't know anything about the genre and saw the trailers and just bought it upon that info.

It seems some people just need the new, 'shiny' version even if it isn't up to par with the old one.

Perhaps, hopefully the devs will pull their fingers out and work on having a solid base game so ultimately we will have a good KSP2 experience in a not so distant future, but this last year has been pretty depressing in this regard.

[Tech Enthusiast]

There really is no reason to play KSP 2, if you are confortable with modding KSP 1.

KSP 1 is just plain better in pretty much every single aspect. Hell, even the UI is better (ugh!),... really only buy KSP 2 if you want to support the development (at this point, please don't....).

In a few years KSP 2 may be on par, or even have a feature KSP 1 does not have. Now? Pass.

Edit: The word "depressing" is a perfect match when thinking about KSP 2. It is depressingly lackluster.

[sunnypunny]

the word "depressing" is a perfect match when thinking about every ksp stan that continually appears in this forum to bash the sequel with misinformation

[Tech Enthusiast]

引用自 phonkonaut：

the word "depressing" is a perfect match when thinking about every ksp stan that continually appears in this forum to bash the sequel with misinformation

You are free to correct us by stating what kinda feature KSP2 has that KSP1 does not do better!

[sunnypunny]

& u r free to go use the ksp forum to circlejerk about how great ur boomer game is, instead of making every thread in here about it

[BSNB]

引用自 Tech Enthusiast：

引用自 phonkonaut：

the word "depressing" is a perfect match when thinking about every ksp stan that continually appears in this forum to bash the sequel with misinformation

You are free to correct us by stating what kinda feature KSP2 has that KSP1 does not do better!

It's best to ignore this one.

[sunnypunny]

watch out the OP quoted a quote that included the person he's been trying to shut down for days, that's tantamount to an acknowledgement that KSP2 mods exist! shock horror, the OP's entire thread is undermined

[sunnypunny]

引用自 BSNB：

What are some good reasons to move onto ksp2 from ksp1 with tons of mods? I play career mode only in ksp1 with tons of mods including life support mods.

the funniest part about this is when the OP openly admits to refunding the game, so they already have no interest in discussing this topic, and are purely here to spread negativity about ksp2

[BSNB]

引用自 Dr.Bourinos：

引用自 BSNB：

It seems some people just need the new, 'shiny' version even if it isn't up to par with the old one.

Perhaps, hopefully the devs will pull their fingers out and work on having a solid base game so ultimately we will have a good KSP2 experience in a not so distant future, but this last year has been pretty depressing in this regard.

I'm definitely looking forward to this game being completed.

[Alshain]

引用自 Dr.Bourinos：

引用自 BSNB：

It seems some people just need the new, 'shiny' version even if it isn't up to par with the old one.

Perhaps, hopefully the devs will pull their fingers out and work on having a solid base game so ultimately we will have a good KSP2 experience in a not so distant future, but this last year has been pretty depressing in this regard.

Sadly, I think they are in denial. I hope they prove me wrong, but the way Nate talk, it seems as if they think the game is perfect already.