Why is it still on steam for sale?

[ждун]

I hear the studio failed and is being closed. I wonder why its still on steam for sale?
I don't care to have been ripped my 50 bugs at the day of EA going public, but i would be extremely pissed now as a new unaware customer buying the product passing the refund time and then finding out that the project is being cancelled and that it was decided before I bought it.

[Nicolas]

Sadly T2 and PD have decided not to say anything so we won't know what Valve will do until they make some more concrete statements.

The question really comes down to how T2 and PD are going to handle the studio as it exists on paper especially since they're know for closing studios by firing everyone and then not dissolving the actual business; that's probably a scenario Valve would actually weigh in on.

I actually wouldn't be surprised if T2 and PD restaffed Intercept with a skeleton crew, that Valve would still allow the page to stay up and sell the game simply because the barrier for entry with early access is so very low even if the parent companies makes millions and billions of dollars a year.

But who really knows? Last time Valves refund policy had a major change it was because a triple A publisher (Double-Fine) entered early access and proceeded to fumble hard and basically scam a bunch of people because the EA model allowed for it.

Hopefully we learn something new soon. Matt Lowne has said we'll know more by the end of the week, maybe then both Valve as us will know more about what is happening and the picture will be more complete.

[TargetLost]

That is what we all wonder. It is so disshonest. Steam should at least set it to a temporary sell close till T2 communicated clear if and how this game will progress and the pages are adapted with their new roadmap if there is any at all.

If it were to me I would kick T2 from the platform for breaking the EA steam rules/contracts and not communicating at all. I would not allow them to missuse the platform how they please and not telling anyone what is going on.

Only explonation why it is not blocked to me is if steam was informed by T2 and knows more but soimehow I doubt that is the case.

[almagnus1]

Originally posted by Nicolas:

Matt Lowne has said we'll know more by the end of the week, maybe then both Valve as us will know more about what is happening and the picture will be more complete.

Tbh, I probably wouldn't have picked up KSP2 if Matt Lowne hadn't have given it such a hyped up review, so I'm really not exactly thrilled with that YouTuber atm.

I find it interesting Scott Manley stayed away from KSP2 best that I can tell, yet Matt Lowne kinda cheered on the failing developer...

[Healrox]

Yeah, tho this is all on Intercept/Private Division/T2, this is just what steam does.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1893820/Jumplight_Odyssey/
Still with a big early access badge and buyable for almost 30€, tho they canned it end of last year with a big patch to make it mostly playable.

Even worse:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/246090/Spacebase_DF9/
10 years old, still for sale, although Tim "Day Of The Tentacle" Schafer pulled the plug, because it seemed there would be not enough money to be made.

KSP2 will be nex next in line, but certainly not the last.

[almagnus1]

Originally posted by Healrox:

Even worse:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/246090/Spacebase_DF9/
10 years old, still for sale, although Tim "Day Of The Tentacle" Schafer pulled the plug, because it seemed there would be not enough money to be made.

My take on that one wasn't that there wasn't enough money to be made, it's that they screwed up the budgeting of the game so badly and grossly underestimated how much early access would have made so early access didn't fill in the gaps. It basically boiled down to a choice between losing the studio or burning your reputation... and they went with the latter.

Still doesn't suck any less for all involved with it tbh, but at least they open sourced the game.

[Depaskala]

Originally posted by ждун:

I hear the studio failed and is being closed. I wonder why its still on steam for sale?

Because if people buy it, Steam and Take2 still get money.

Any other question ?

[sgtgarman]

this is the first i am learning of this, wth take2

[ne_propheta]

Originally posted by almagnus1:

Originally posted by Nicolas:

Matt Lowne has said we'll know more by the end of the week, maybe then both Valve as us will know more about what is happening and the picture will be more complete.

Tbh, I probably wouldn't have picked up KSP2 if Matt Lowne hadn't have given it such a hyped up review, so I'm really not exactly thrilled with that YouTuber atm.

I find it interesting Scott Manley stayed away from KSP2 best that I can tell, yet Matt Lowne kinda cheered on the failing developer...

There is a lesson that any of us could learn, here: do not trust youtubers/streamers.

Just saying.

If something needs to be hyped instead of getting around with its own legs, well . . .

[almagnus1]

Originally posted by ne_propheta:

Originally posted by almagnus1:

Tbh, I probably wouldn't have picked up KSP2 if Matt Lowne hadn't have given it such a hyped up review, so I'm really not exactly thrilled with that YouTuber atm.

I find it interesting Scott Manley stayed away from KSP2 best that I can tell, yet Matt Lowne kinda cheered on the failing developer...

There is a lesson that any of us could learn, here: do not trust youtubers/streamers.

Just saying.

If something needs to be hyped instead of getting around with its own legs, well . . .

Eh, this is like only the second or third game over the MANY years I've been on Steam where it's been a hype purchase (out of the several hundred games in the library).

Generally speaking, unless it's from a solid studio with a track record of great games (like 11 bit with Frostpunk 2), a friend has already played the game and can give a review (V Rising and a couple of others), I'm probably going to wait until I can see the Steam reviews.

[ne_propheta]

Originally posted by almagnus1:

Originally posted by ne_propheta:

There is a lesson that any of us could learn, here: do not trust youtubers/streamers.

Just saying.

If something needs to be hyped instead of getting around with its own legs, well . . .

Eh, this is like only the second or third game over the MANY years I've been on Steam where it's been a hype purchase (out of the several hundred games in the library).

Generally speaking, unless it's from a solid studio with a track record of great games (like 11 bit with Frostpunk 2), a friend has already played the game and can give a review (V Rising and a couple of others), I'm probably going to wait until I can see the Steam reviews.

Hype purchase isn't entirely your fault, honestly.

We are all constantly bombarded by noise on daily (hourly?) basis, at least.

Buy this, try that, don't miss these, don't ignore those.

. . . Yadayadaconsumeyadayadaplayyadayadawasteyadayada . . .

It's soo damn easy to be "convinced", these days.

Our life is a big, universal, extended, community, perpetual commercial spot.

Thanks to social media, our very own day is constantly under a spotlight - send status updates, selfies, stories, reels, whatever about what you're doing from when you wake up to when you close your eyes for sleep.

Because we are products in a globalized bazaar. And at the sime time, we are the merchants too. Not the owners of the marketplace - only the merchants gathered in this or that caravanserai to buy and sell "goods".

Youtubers and folks like that are the very same people that, back in the days, helped to attract potential customers to market stalls. If you ask me, there is no innovation - young and modern means but elder and rusty concepts.

I wrote this despicable wall of text only to let you know that you're not alone out there So don't be angry nor sad, boss, and have a wonderful day/night/whatever!

[nemuro976]

Valve should at least stop this scam from being sold until they actually release a meaningful update, not a bunch of minor fixes to bugs that should've been obvious.

[Healrox]

Originally posted by almagnus1:

Generally speaking, unless it's from a solid studio with a track record of great games (like 11 bit with Frostpunk 2), a friend has already played the game and can give a review (V Rising and a couple of others), I'm probably going to wait until I can see the Steam reviews.

I would have agreed with you until about half a year ago, when Colossal Order dumped out Cities Skylines 2.
You really have to wait weeks after release to see if the games are any good, nowadays. It sucks!

[ждун]

When I decide to get into early access of a new product, I am well aware that I am taking risks that the project may fail half way and be abandoned or canceled. It is fine for me taking that risk. But not taking it down from shop after the plug has already been pulled, this really feels like swindle. I am not a lawyer but I doubt that this is compatible with the EA contract. I think there should be at least a fat red banner on the shop page informing potential customers that the project is in limbo, perhaps with a serious discount. That would be fair.

[9g6t7g967t]

There are long abandoned games in a far worse state than this that have remained on Steam to this day.

[ne_propheta]

Originally posted by 9g6t7g967t:

There are long abandoned games in a far worse state than this that have remained on Steam to this day.

Nonetheless adding a shovel of dirt to an existing stack won't make that mound smaller.