good god this forum is toxic

[exactly 1 knight]

While I see where your coming from, I'm pretty upset with the fps too. This is more of a radiation hazard than the ppg discussion forums. Just refund and move on if you don't like the game.

Edit: It was fun while it lasted. I'm getting a refund as I firmly do not believe this game is in any state to release, Even in early access.

I would also further like to clarify I'm not one of those people who just hate everyone for liking KSP 2. I've played KSP since I was around 7-8 and it made me who I am as a person. I hope they fix the issues, But until then I have no trust in Intercept.
(BUGS I FOUND:)
General VAB bugginess.
Maneuver node lines don't exist making getting anywhere or doing anything impossible.
Settings seem to change nothing.
KSC causes a spike in lag that makes the game unplayable while looking at the general area. (Literally anywhere else runs fine.)
Screenshots do not work.
Laythe's atmosphere is messed up in the map view.
VAB does not allow you to view TWR individually between engines, It groups them all giving inaccurate results. It also always gives sea level TWR.

[Dr.Bourinos]

At least you had the honnesty to add your edit in the end.
I refunded as well, it is just too rough, and with a 50$ pricetag on top, it is unacceptable.

[tons0phun]

People sifting through the install files are finding KSP2 is, literally without exaggeration, modded KSP1.

Four years just to charge $50 for community mods added in?
It is silly to be upset, but, entirely validated to be disappointed in the KSP team.

[Athalon020]

I've noticed over the past few months that there seems to be a disconnect between what "Early Access" really means and what people think it means. I bought an add-on to a flight simulator a few weeks ago that was listed as Early Access, even says "This is incomplete and in Early Access" when you load the plane, and there are countless forum topics and comments about how the plane is incomplete at release. When I saw KSP2 would go out in Early Access, this is pretty much the response I expected to see. Even if the performance is iffy and it's missing some stuff, that's literally what the first sentence says on the game's steam page: "This Early Access game is not complete".

I'm not sure why there's this frame of mind spreading around the gaming community where it's a race to see who can be the first with negative comments or post the best "roast" of the developer, but the majority of the reviews talk about what's missing, not what it is, and that's counter to what Early Access does. Like the store page and the OP says:

If you are not excited to play this game in its current state, then you should wait to see if the game progresses further in development.

Nobody is saying you have to purchase the game right now, so if it's not in a state you're happy with just refund it and give it time.

[creepyfeet]

引用自 luZk：

引用自 Hellsy：

And this is why these forums should only be for people who brought the game.....

Because trolls are trollls. Now back to ej_sa on twitch for some feel good hype about ksp2. I always look for the mouse icon...you know to avoid misinformation from idiots.

I did'nt buy the game yet I am here figthing against this toxicity. And I left this thread before launch to make sure that the people engaging in this behaviour know what they're doing.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/954850/discussions/0/3772364949846932723/

So. You came to argue a point regarding the game that you haven't bought with people that have bought the game.

Go you!

[Rothgar]

引用自 tons0phun：

People sifting through the install files are finding KSP2 is, literally without exaggeration, modded KSP1.

Four years just to charge $50 for community mods added in?
It is silly to be upset, but, entirely validated to be disappointed in the KSP team.

This. I'm genuinely surprised people are surprised and upset with how things panned out. Looking at the history of KSP2 development should be a HUGE redflag to people, and all of the videos they released to document what's going on at the studio should've really clued people in.
I wasn't touching this one with a ten foot pole. It just baffles me at the price point that people not only trusted this studio, but an early access title from them.

[[NKN]78stonewobble BLEARGH]

引用自 creepyfeet：

So. You came to argue a point regarding the game that you haven't bought with people that have bought the game.

Go you!

Omg. these gucci bags are too ugly, too expensive, too broken and yet I can't stop buying them. I just keep buying them without looking first.

Why is Gucci so mean to me?!?!?

[DaBa]

引用自 Athalon020：

I've noticed over the past few months that there seems to be a disconnect between what "Early Access" really means and what people think it means. I bought an add-on to a flight simulator a few weeks ago that was listed as Early Access, even says "This is incomplete and in Early Access" when you load the plane, and there are countless forum topics and comments about how the plane is incomplete at release. When I saw KSP2 would go out in Early Access, this is pretty much the response I expected to see. Even if the performance is iffy and it's missing some stuff, that's literally what the first sentence says on the game's steam page: "This Early Access game is not complete".

I'm not sure why there's this frame of mind spreading around the gaming community where it's a race to see who can be the first with negative comments or post the best "roast" of the developer, but the majority of the reviews talk about what's missing, not what it is, and that's counter to what Early Access does. Like the store page and the OP says:

If you are not excited to play this game in its current state, then you should wait to see if the game progresses further in development.

Nobody is saying you have to purchase the game right now, so if it's not in a state you're happy with just refund it and give it time.

引用自 DaBa：

Yeah, people by now know that Early access games do not have to be garbage on release, this isn't 2015. Also they never have to pay 50$ for even the really good ones.

[[NKN]78stonewobble BLEARGH]

引用自 ThisMeenzWar：

The people don't decide when the game is launched. It's not like we're kicking doors down and creating builds. The Product Managers, Developers and Stakeholders do. Nice try.

And who makes the decision for you to buy things or not?

You or the legal guardian you need to make such complicated decisions for you?

[[NKN]78stonewobble BLEARGH]

引用自 Lowbei：

I made the decision to buy and review the product. Unfortunately, it didnt meet expectations for the price.

What were you promised in this release, that wasn't delivered?

EDIT and PS:

We all knew it was gonna be buggy, has few features and have bad performance. So what kind of research did you do?

[TeeSquar]

引用自 luZk：

Dude, steam has been like this for years, same stuff new game.

I have been through this on NMS, CP2077, ED Odyssey, Darktide and more games I enjoyed from launch and was ridiculed for daring to like.

People are pretty generally pretty bad at setting reasonable expectations when buying games.

I pray that Division puts in the half effort that NMS did, regarding operational updates. Yes, that game was a CF at first, too, but within a month they had major improvements.

[Maddiedoggie]

Steam users when an Early Access game made by a modern AAA dev isn't perfect:

[⎛⎝Tiùwilo⎠⎞]

The question is; Does it look like they can actually fix this in the time they have? Does it look like the roadmap will be fully implemented even if sales throughout the EA are slim and progress is slow? Not the easiest questions to answer, especially when it's a new team.

[Brightbill]

引用自 NKN78stonewobble BLEARGH：

引用自 Lowbei：

I made the decision to buy and review the product. Unfortunately, it didnt meet expectations for the price.

What were you promised in this release, that wasn't delivered?

EDIT and PS:

We all knew it was gonna be buggy, has few features and have bad performance. So what kind of research did you do?

>We all knew it was gonna be buggy

I was promised "the quality and level of polish it deserves." [forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com]

So no, I wasn't aware it was going to be terrible.

[Niall]

引用自 Re-Class May：

^This, its kinda frustrating how many people are bashing the game rn, too the point you cant actually see feedback thats geninuely trying to help improve the game

This is not the place for giving that kind of feedback. Don't worry the ball is in play.

[Porkibus]

This thread delivers! nom nom nom