An important change is needed, if this game ever gets remastered.

[Rick O'Shay]

If this game ever gets remastered, I REALLY do hope that the studio MERGES the two main campaigns, so that it all plays chronologically, AND, that the weapons that the DLC introduces are also part of the main campaign.

It's disgraceful that the laser-pistol from T1 and the M79 Thumper from T2 are only in the DLC campaign and not the main one.

Overall, I LOVE the game, and while I do understand why they made zero references to T3 and beyond, I still think that they should have connected Terminator Salvation to the game. And hired Michael Biehn to voice older Kyle.

[Valden21]

I disagree with you. Terminator: Salvation is a different timeline, as both it's start of the Future War and it's destruction of Skynet's Central Core happen in different years than in the original timeline (1997 and 2027 in the Original Timeline, and 2009 and 2029 in the Salvation Timeline). So trying to link them would have created huge continuity issues for the devs. No, better to have left them separate.

[Rick O'Shay]

Originally posted by Valden21:

I disagree with you. Terminator: Salvation is a different timeline, as both it's start of the Future War and it's destruction of Skynet's Central Core happen in different years than in the original timeline (1997 and 2027 in the Original Timeline, and 2009 and 2029 in the Salvation Timeline). So trying to link them would have created huge continuity issues for the devs. No, better to have left them separate.

True about the timeline being different.

But I am more referring to including the machinery seen in TS. Such as a Terminator Hybrid, which I think Jacob Rivers should have been.

And the human use of Huey helicopters, and those water-snake machines.

[Rick O'Shay]

Originally posted by Valden21:

I disagree with you. Terminator: Salvation is a different timeline, as both it's start of the Future War and it's destruction of Skynet's Central Core happen in different years than in the original timeline (1997 and 2027 in the Original Timeline, and 2009 and 2029 in the Salvation Timeline). So trying to link them would have created huge continuity issues for the devs. No, better to have left them separate.

Besides, the T-47 encountered in this game, wasn't that from Terminator Salvation?

[dusteki]

Originally posted by Rick O'Shay:

Originally posted by Valden21:

I disagree with you. Terminator: Salvation is a different timeline, as both it's start of the Future War and it's destruction of Skynet's Central Core happen in different years than in the original timeline (1997 and 2027 in the Original Timeline, and 2009 and 2029 in the Salvation Timeline). So trying to link them would have created huge continuity issues for the devs. No, better to have left them separate.

True about the timeline being different.

But I am more referring to including the machinery seen in TS. Such as a Terminator Hybrid, which I think Jacob Rivers should have been.

And the human use of Huey helicopters, and those water-snake machines.

I don't need to fist fight Terminators. Reese is a good actor, whatever Sam Worthington was isn't.

[Valden21]

Originally posted by Rick O'Shay:

Besides, the T-47 encountered in this game, wasn't that from Terminator Salvation?

According to the wiki, no. The T-47 appears in Terminator: Resistance, and ONLY Terminator-Resistance. Terminator: Salvation has something that looks similar, but it's used for a different purpose. As for human-Terminator hybrids, that's also something that firmly belongs to the Salvation timeline, as the tech to create turn humans into human-Terminator hybrids was created by a different company as part of a government contract to make robot soldiers. So again, that creates continuity problems.

[Rick O'Shay]

Originally posted by Valden21:

Originally posted by Rick O'Shay:

Besides, the T-47 encountered in this game, wasn't that from Terminator Salvation?

According to the wiki, no. The T-47 appears in Terminator: Resistance, and ONLY Terminator-Resistance. Terminator: Salvation has something that looks similar, but it's used for a different purpose. As for human-Terminator hybrids, that's also something that firmly belongs to the Salvation timeline, as the tech to create turn humans into human-Terminator hybrids was created by a different company as part of a government contract to make robot soldiers. So again, that creates continuity problems.

The timeline problem is negligible, as Judgement Day happens only 6 years apart.

[Rick O'Shay]

Originally posted by dusteki:

Originally posted by Rick O'Shay:

True about the timeline being different.

But I am more referring to including the machinery seen in TS. Such as a Terminator Hybrid, which I think Jacob Rivers should have been.

And the human use of Huey helicopters, and those water-snake machines.

I don't need to fist fight Terminators. Reese is a good actor, whatever Sam Worthington was isn't.

Sam isn't bad. And it feels weird to have a melee button that is 90% useless.

[Valden21]

Originally posted by Rick O'Shay:

The timeline problem is negligible, as Judgement Day happens only 6 years apart.

But the REASON Skynet comes into existence is different between timelines. In the original timeline, Skynet's origins were from a new kind of processor chip inspired by the hand of the Terminator from the first movie. In the Salvation timeline, Skynet and the decision to create Terminators were both overseen directly by the U.S government. Because of that, each version of Skynet is different, and that leads to differences in the timelines. So no, the timeline problem ISN'T negligible.

[Rick O'Shay]

Originally posted by Valden21:

Originally posted by Rick O'Shay:

The timeline problem is negligible, as Judgement Day happens only 6 years apart.

But the REASON Skynet comes into existence is different between timelines. In the original timeline, Skynet's origins were from a new kind of processor chip inspired by the hand of the Terminator from the first movie. In the Salvation timeline, Skynet and the decision to create Terminators were both overseen directly by the U.S government. Because of that, each version of Skynet is different, and that leads to differences in the timelines. So no, the timeline problem ISN'T negligible.

When the police are interrogating Reese in the first movie, Reese explains that the US government invented the program to give themselves an edge over America's old Cold War enemies, Russia and China... Reese didn't mention the captured hand. 🤔

Plus, the timeline problem I was talking was only about the YEAR number. 😅

[Valden21]

Originally posted by Rick O'Shay:

When the police are interrogating Reese in the first movie, Reese explains that the US government invented the program to give themselves an edge over America's old Cold War enemies, Russia and China... Reese didn't mention the captured hand. 🤔

Plus, the timeline problem I was talking was only about the YEAR number. 😅

Reese didn't mention the hand because he didn't know about it, as he had already DIED. NOBODY in the Resistance originally knew about the hand, as Sarah and John don't know about it until talking to Miles Dyson. In the Salvation timeline, there IS no hand; the development of Skynet in that timeline is DIRECTLY overseen by the U.S military, while in the original timeline, it was just a defense contract developed by a private company.

Furthermore, the one-year difference between the timelines is inaccurate. The T3 and T4 timelines both have Judgement Day occurring in 2004. But in the ORIGINAL timeline, it happens in 1997.

[Rick O'Shay]

Originally posted by Valden21:

Reese didn't mention the hand because he didn't know about it, as he had already DIED. NOBODY in the Resistance originally knew about the hand, as Sarah and John don't know about it until talking to Miles Dyson. In the Salvation timeline, there IS no hand; the development of Skynet in that timeline is DIRECTLY overseen by the U.S military, while in the original timeline, it was just a defense contract developed by a private company.

Furthermore, the one-year difference between the timelines is inaccurate. The T3 and T4 timelines both have Judgement Day occurring in 2004. But in the ORIGINAL timeline, it happens in 1997.

Reese died, but he was born later, in case you forgot about his travel back in time.

Also, I thought T3's justification of existence was due to Arnie losing his hand in the 2nd movie, just like he lost it in the 1st movie.

When did I say "one-year-difference"? Scroll up. I clearly said 6, because T3 was made in 2003.

[Valden21]

Originally posted by Rick O'Shay:

When did I say "one-year-difference"? Scroll up. I clearly said 6, because T3 was made in 2003.

Correct, you DID say that. But that still proves my point, because ANY difference in the timing of Judgement Day creates a difference between timelines. In turn, that creates a continuity problem if the IP owners ever decide to merge the two timelines. In Salvation, Judgment Day occurs when it happens in part because Skynet exists in a different form than it does in the original timeline. Terminator: Resistance is part of the original timeline, as the game itself firmly establishes, so it uses the original timeline's timing of Judgment Day: August 28, 1997.

[Rick O'Shay]

Originally posted by Valden21:

Correct, you DID say that. But that still proves my point, because ANY difference in the timing of Judgement Day creates a difference between timelines. In turn, that creates a continuity problem if the IP owners ever decide to merge the two timelines. In Salvation, Judgment Day occurs when it happens in part because Skynet exists in a different form than it does in the original timeline. Terminator: Resistance is part of the original timeline, as the game itself firmly establishes, so it uses the original timeline's timing of Judgment Day: August 28, 1997.

Did we ever actually see the T-600s in T1 or T2? 🤔
Particularly the the T-650, with the rubber face that Reese told us about in T1?

[SievertChaser]

Originally posted by Valden21:

As for human-Terminator hybrids, that's also something that firmly belongs to the Salvation timeline, as the tech to create turn humans into human-Terminator hybrids was created by a different company as part of a government contract to make robot soldiers. So again, that creates continuity problems.

The basic idea keeps cropping up. There was a whole book series with I-950, flesh and blood save for a cranio-spinal implant array.

[Valden21]

Originally posted by Rick O'Shay:

Did we ever actually see the T-600s in T1 or T2? 🤔
Particularly the the T-650, with the rubber face that Reese told us about in T1?

No, just T-800's and the T-1000. According to the wiki, the T-600 was obsolete in the original timeline by the time that Terminator: Resistance takes place. That's why we only see it in the Annihilation Line DLC.