Question about Evans [Spoilers]

[BathSaltShaman]

As we discover he's the template for a mass-production line of infiltrators, but there's a line towards the end of the DLC that has me wondering:

Is he a stand-in for Schwarzenegger? Meaning, since they didn't have licensing for Arnold's likeness, was he the face used for the Terminator sent after Sarah and also the one sent to protect John?

He mentions that when his camp was liberated he was in a cell with dozens of people and was standing near the back. When the doors opened and Connor saw him he stared through all of them, as if he was the only one there, with this strange almost-mesmerized look. Connor knew about the infiltrator line and that he was a template but was there more to that when he saw him? Was he just the face of a random infiltrator line Connor was aware of, as Evan's thought, or could it be (since this was right before a discussion with Reese about all their roles seemingly being a part of a grander scheme) that Connor recognized Evans from his childhood? Could this also be PART of the reason why, despite not knowing what it looked like, when Reese saw it in the crowded Tech-Noir he IMMEDIATELY recognized it as a Terminator?

[JasonVoorhees]

You bring up a fair point. Honestly I don't think we can be sure. We KNOW John does send the Arnold model back in time to protect himself as it's stated in the end cutscene of the main game.

Not sure otherwise, unless Connor somehow encountered a model 102 at some unknown point before Judgement Day in his timeline.

[zombie-flesheater]

Originally posted by Drugula:

As we discover he's the template for a mass-production line of infiltrators, but there's a line towards the end of the DLC that has me wondering:

Is he a stand-in for Schwarzenegger? Meaning, since they didn't have licensing for Arnold's likeness, was he the face used for the Terminator sent after Sarah and also the one sent to protect John?

He mentions that when his camp was liberated he was in a cell with dozens of people and was standing near the back. When the doors opened and Connor saw him he stared through all of them, as if he was the only one there, with this strange almost-mesmerized look. Connor knew about the infiltrator line and that he was a template but was there more to that when he saw him? Was he just the face of a random infiltrator line Connor was aware of, as Evan's thought, or could it be (since this was right before a discussion with Reese about all their roles seemingly being a part of a grander scheme) that Connor recognized Evans from his childhood? Could this also be PART of the reason why, despite not knowing what it looked like, when Reese saw it in the crowded Tech-Noir he IMMEDIATELY recognized it as a Terminator?

Yes, I thought the same. They've probably written themselves into a corner, expecting to get the actual Arnold license (and maybe even voicework) originally but I assume they couldn't get it or it would have been too expensive. So they called it model 102 instead of 101, but IMHO it's pretty obvious the only way Connor could have "recognized" Evans would have been with Evans looking like Arnold. Even the way Evans talks supports this.

Still wondering if Evans looking like Arnold would have impacted the plottwist even more or less, though.

[cjb28]

Originally posted by Drugula:

As we discover he's the template for a mass-production line of infiltrators, but there's a line towards the end of the DLC that has me wondering:

Is he a stand-in for Schwarzenegger? Meaning, since they didn't have licensing for Arnold's likeness, was he the face used for the Terminator sent after Sarah and also the one sent to protect John?

He mentions that when his camp was liberated he was in a cell with dozens of people and was standing near the back. When the doors opened and Connor saw him he stared through all of them, as if he was the only one there, with this strange almost-mesmerized look. Connor knew about the infiltrator line and that he was a template but was there more to that when he saw him? Was he just the face of a random infiltrator line Connor was aware of, as Evan's thought, or could it be (since this was right before a discussion with Reese about all their roles seemingly being a part of a grander scheme) that Connor recognized Evans from his childhood? Could this also be PART of the reason why, despite not knowing what it looked like, when Reese saw it in the crowded Tech-Noir he IMMEDIATELY recognized it as a Terminator?

You probably are right after the Tech-Noir shootout when he and Sarah are in the car he says Cyberdyne Systems Model 101 which means the Frank Columbo is Model 102

[thebiggestoneg]

Let’s all remember that frank columbo played the infiltrator who cleaned out the bunker in the first terminator when Reese was having the dream.

[BathSaltShaman]

Originally posted by thebiggestoneg:

Let’s all remember that frank columbo played the infiltrator who cleaned out the bunker in the first terminator when Reese was having the dream.

Yes, I know that. I was just wondering when I made this thread two years ago if they wrote Evan's part for Arnold but switched it back to the Frank Columbo-likeness when they couldn't afford him. They already had permission to use Columbo's likeness in the Infiltrator Mode DLC which dropped the year before the Reese DLC which is why I wondered they were recycling the model.

[killjoy_ns]

Evans looks like VIC Terminator from Sarah Connor Chronicles.
I mean, he is bald...🤣
It is possible that Evans is a replacement for "Arnold model".