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CatraGirl 2020 年 4 月 18 日 下午 12:11
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So apparently they turned Jill's skirt on the classic outfit into shorts, to avoid "sexualization", but then they released this? xD
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Zhong Xina 2020 年 4 月 18 日 下午 1:13 
引用自 Cherry Man 🍒
It goes to show that all the people crying about Jill's skort were wasting their time. It was just better for the gameplay given the treatment of the character and the way the cutscenes were directed.
They removed the skirt so sensitive people don't get triggered by panty shots in the cutscenes.
CatraGirl 2020 年 4 月 18 日 下午 1:19 
引用自 Cherry Man 🍒
引用自 Zireael

Or probably because they weren't nearly as iconic as Jill's RE3 outfit.

I dunno, with RE2 being more popular and Leon likely being the most popular character in the franchise given the appeal of 4 and his presence in 2, 4, and 6 along with three of the CG movies I think someone could make a fair argument that he is a more popular character and that his OG outfit is at least as iconic as his RE4 jacket if no moreso.

I do prefer Jill, she's my favorite RE character, but that's kind of a bold claim to make out of the blue.

Anyway, I don't even disagree with you, if you liked the original outfit exactly as is and wanted it to have a skirt in this game and are upset about the change, I am sorry to hear that. Capcom seems to have let down a lot of fans who were expecting or felt entitled to a more traditional remake.

I mean, I agree about your last part. The game was a pretty disappointing remake in a lot of aspects imo. It's still a decent game, but as a remake of RE3 it fails horribly.
Cherry Man 2020 年 4 月 18 日 下午 1:22 
引用自 Duke Suckem
引用自 Cherry Man 🍒
It goes to show that all the people crying about Jill's skort were wasting their time. It was just better for the gameplay given the treatment of the character and the way the cutscenes were directed.
They removed the skirt so sensitive people don't get triggered by panty shots in the cutscenes.

It actually is possible to think upskirt panty shots would be out of place in a game without being sensitive or triggered or puritan or anything negative.

Directors aren't prudes for choosing not to include those elements in their projects, the overwhelming majority of media doesn't include upskirt panty shots and adult entertainment still booms.

There were no intentional upskirt panty shots in the original so nothing was cut in that sense of the game being a remake/reimagining.

The only sensitive people I have seen be outraged at this change are the ones who want their panties back.

And before it comes up, I'm very pro-adult entertainment and literally work in the field so that isn't the reason for my feelings.

Jill's skort just doesn't hurt this game in reality the way it has offended people in their fantasy realms.

Would you people be happy if the skirt was a skirt but the cutscenes and in-game camera wouldn't let you peek up it during gameplay? Not if they made that change now, of course that would outrage you, but if it was like that way at launch. If you say you'd have no problem with that, then there's really no issue. I'd agree that would be very faithful to the original game.

But if you just wanna see her panties that's totally okay I got news for you you can do that on the internet.

Just... y'all don't have to invent enemies to rage against in a vacuum as being responsible for ruining your vidya. It is going to be okay, I promise.
Gremlin5 2020 年 4 月 18 日 下午 1:26 
not my proudest fap
Sifer2 2020 年 4 月 18 日 下午 1:42 
If that excited you then you should probably know the character models in Resistance are apparently nude under the outfits for some reason. Like they have genitalia painted on. Probably cause they did body scans, and were too lazy to paint over it lol.
Cherry Man 2020 年 4 月 18 日 下午 1:45 
引用自 Sifer2
If that excited you then you should probably know the character models in Resistance are apparently nude under the outfits for some reason. Like they have genitalia painted on. Probably cause they did body scans, and were too lazy to paint over it lol.

Yeah there is an interesting Twitter thread you can find from a game dev basically making the point that since the textures of the full body scans can't be accessed in-game it was more efficient for the devs to just leave the base textures intact and work on something else, pretty much.

These aren't the days of "Hot Coffee" where inaccessible content can get a game banned unless some adventurous devs out there really want to cross a line with their hidden files for controversy's sake.
Morton Koopa Jr. 2020 年 4 月 18 日 下午 1:47 
引用自 Cherry Man 🍒
引用自 Duke Suckem
They removed the skirt so sensitive people don't get triggered by panty shots in the cutscenes.

It actually is possible to think upskirt panty shots would be out of place in a game without being sensitive or triggered or puritan or anything negative.

Right.

And I'm sure you work in the adult entertainment industry. I got an uncle who works in capcom too. And he said this was for puritanical reasons.
Cherry Man 2020 年 4 月 18 日 下午 1:50 
引用自 Morton Koopa Jr.
引用自 Cherry Man 🍒

It actually is possible to think upskirt panty shots would be out of place in a game without being sensitive or triggered or puritan or anything negative.

Right.

And I'm sure you work in the adult entertainment industry. I got an uncle who works in capcom too. And he said this was for puritanical reasons.

This is the least relevant thing I said and doesn't have an impact on my statements at all other than going out of my way to provide some context for my feelings on the subject matter at large outside of this game.

If that's all you have issue with then I think we're good here, it's no skin off my back.

(And P.S., no I'm not claiming to be an actor, I'm involved in the writing and production side of things.)
最後修改者:Cherry Man; 2020 年 4 月 18 日 下午 1:51
cruithne 2020 年 4 月 18 日 下午 1:51 
We still need Jan's bare back skin
Cherry Man 2020 年 4 月 18 日 下午 1:52 
引用自 cruithne
We still need Jan's bare back skin

I miss when this was the ridiculous thing people were actually offended about being covered. It was the same people with the same arguments but was definitely more visibly ridiculous to outsiders.
最後修改者:Cherry Man; 2020 年 4 月 18 日 下午 1:52
Zhong Xina 2020 年 4 月 18 日 下午 3:11 
引用自 Cherry Man 🍒
引用自 Duke Suckem
They removed the skirt so sensitive people don't get triggered by panty shots in the cutscenes.

It actually is possible to think upskirt panty shots would be out of place in a game without being sensitive or triggered or puritan or anything negative.

Directors aren't prudes for choosing not to include those elements in their projects, the overwhelming majority of media doesn't include upskirt panty shots and adult entertainment still booms.

There were no intentional upskirt panty shots in the original so nothing was cut in that sense of the game being a remake/reimagining.

The only sensitive people I have seen be outraged at this change are the ones who want their panties back.

And before it comes up, I'm very pro-adult entertainment and literally work in the field so that isn't the reason for my feelings.

Jill's skort just doesn't hurt this game in reality the way it has offended people in their fantasy realms.

Would you people be happy if the skirt was a skirt but the cutscenes and in-game camera wouldn't let you peek up it during gameplay? Not if they made that change now, of course that would outrage you, but if it was like that way at launch. If you say you'd have no problem with that, then there's really no issue. I'd agree that would be very faithful to the original game.

But if you just wanna see her panties that's totally okay I got news for you you can do that on the internet.

Just... y'all don't have to invent enemies to rage against in a vacuum as being responsible for ruining your vidya. It is going to be okay, I promise.
Capcom has removed content before because they didn't want players to get offended, and if people keep buying their games why wouldn't they do it again with RE3 remake?

Getting outraged at censorship isn't sensitive.

Here's an example of the sensitive players capcom didn't want to offend.
Wot I Think: Resident Evil 3

Nate Crowley
Reviews Editor
31st March 2020 / 1:00PM

I do kind of want to flag the whole “violence against women” aspect of Nemesis, and of the game in general, as it’s hard to deny it’s a theme, or that it’s presented with at least a little relish. I realise it’s completely unreasonable to single out RE3 for this when, y’know, *gestures at the entire history of the horror genre*. And in fairness, you play as trigger-happy mercenary Carlos for a good portion of the game, so you get to see loads of lingering close ups of a man’s neck getting devoured like a late night burger, too.

But… yeah. There were moments while playing when I just felt uncomfortable. Jill isn’t too obviously a vessel for anyone’s fetishes, but realistic as she is, she’s clearly designed to be sexy. And she spends an awful lot of time being hurled into things, slapped about, grunting in pain, being asphyxiated, and either struggling to force assailants off her, or being graphically murdered by them. There was one particularly rough bit where one of the previously mentioned spider monsters strangled her with tentacles, then rammed a bigger tentacle down her neck to pump her full of parasites. Watching back through my capture footage for screenshots, I could hear myself mutter “not cool, man” into my headset. And it doesn’t happen to Carlos.

I wasn’t even kidding on Nemesis having sleazy dom energy, by the way. Jill’s ex-supercop colleague Brad mentions Nemesis having a “hard-on” for her, and when Carlos is introduced – while saving Jill from a mangling at the hands of ol’ bagfists himself – he quips that Nemesis “knows what it wants, and won’t stop till it gets it – don’t you like that in a man?”
“No thanks,” replies Jill, “he’s all yours”.

I actually liked the interactions between Carlos and Jill, and they worked well to dispel some of the general miasma of yikes mentioned above. Carlos (who is also sexy, though I can’t work out whether that’s because of or despite his ridiculous hair) is a prick. He wants to play the white knight, and Jill’s just not having any of it. Her dialogue never really strays into cringey Strong Female Protagonist territory while fending it off – she’s just a total professional, who’s too busy trying to deal with her situation to pay any heed to that sort of guff. She never feels like half the victim her death animations make her seem.

http://archive.vn/bpzIA
最後修改者:Zhong Xina; 2020 年 4 月 18 日 下午 3:15
Cherry Man 2020 年 4 月 18 日 下午 3:22 
引用自 Duke Suckem
Getting outraged at censorship isn't sensitive. Here's an example of the sensitive players capcom didn't want to offend.

It's not censorship though? There aren't any panty shots in the game that they chose to censor, you can't censor something that never existed. Them not making the game as sexy as you would like isn't censorship. Capcom deciding the direction they wanted to go with the character's design isn't censorship.

Not every change is censorship. Wanted to make a design appeal to a larger audience as a bid to increase sales is not censorship. No one made them do this but themselves.

This game has more violent content, language, and suggestive situations (Drain Deimos, obviously) than the original by every metric, even if the gore is toned down from the previous remake (likely due to performance issues, it looks like).

I would have liked to see a skirt option too, it appeals to a sense of nostalgia of course. I'm just not particularly upset that it is a skort instead. It doesn't herald anything larger or spell doom for gamer culture. They just thought it wouldn't make the game as appealing if the camera was zooming right up Jill's skirt every time she had to crawl under something. Yes, I agree that they could have just chosen different camera direction and kept the more nostalgic outfit.

Less offended and more confused I guess. I'm trying to find the conspiracy against gamers, media, and males and I can't find it. I'm looking for the censorship equivalent to any titles that actually are censored upon release or based on region but I just can't find it. I just see trends shifting over time, as they've done before and shall continue.

It's not an attack on you. You're going to be okay.

Edit for edit: That Nate Crowley article is one person's take on the situation. Do you... do you think he and people like him have the power to shift Capcom's direction with their little blog posts? Are you conflating all people who disagree with you or are at the least okay with Jill and the game as a whole as agreeing with him? I'd be willing to bet most people who don't agree with you would also find his article pretty funny.

If it is that easy for someone writing negatively about a subject to change development trends people like you should have the world reflecting your views in no time.
最後修改者:Cherry Man; 2020 年 4 月 18 日 下午 3:27
Horace Pinker 2020 年 4 月 18 日 下午 3:31 
checked the pic and it doesn't seem on fire. all I saw were granny pannies
Zhong Xina 2020 年 4 月 18 日 下午 3:56 
引用自 Cherry Man 🍒
引用自 Duke Suckem
Getting outraged at censorship isn't sensitive. Here's an example of the sensitive players capcom didn't want to offend.

It's not censorship though? There aren't any panty shots in the game that they chose to censor, you can't censor something that never existed. Them not making the game as sexy as you would like isn't censorship. Capcom deciding the direction they wanted to go with the character's design isn't censorship.

Not every change is censorship. Wanted to make a design appeal to a larger audience as a bid to increase sales is not censorship. No one made them do this but themselves.

Edit for edit: That Nate Crowley article is one person's take on the situation. Do you... do you think he and people like him have the power to shift Capcom's direction with their little blog posts? Are you conflating all people who disagree with you or are at the least okay with Jill and the game as a whole as agreeing with him? I'd be willing to bet most people who don't agree with you would also find his article pretty funny.

Self-censorship is a form of censorship. Controlling what you say or do in order to avoid offending others.

When you look at how capcom has self-censored their games before so people don't get offended, and you have a lot of video game journalists complaining about females being too sexy in games and that it teaches men not to respect women, and capcom and other games like mk11 suddenly tones down the female sex appeal in their games, then it is very likely that game journalists are influencing capcom to self-censor.

Once you start to legitimize that "sexy female outfits in games causes men to not respect women and become "misogynists" then "violence and gore in games makes people violent and become murders" will follow.
最後修改者:Zhong Xina; 2020 年 4 月 18 日 下午 4:08
Cherry Man 2020 年 4 月 18 日 下午 4:20 
We already had the conversation about violence in games making people violent twenty years ago. I exploded the head off a shambling corpse in RE3R the other day. I think we see how that panned out. We're still having conversations about sexuality in media and I assure you we will make it out okay. No one will ever stop you from getting on your computer and finding some panties to look at as long as you live and if I'm wrong about that please come find me and I will apologize to you.

I've never said here that her having a different outfit would be less respectful towards women. I really haven't seen many people here say that at all, definitely a minority. I HAVE seen a lot of people here using manufactured outrage at Jill to dog whistle misogyny, though.

Everyone controls what they say around others, it's a basic communication skill. I'm not sure why you are couching the concept of having some consideration towards others as a bad thing here. Clearly Capcom didn't do a good job, people like you have been plenty offended at these changes. Hopefully they can make more people happy in the future.

Tight jeans and a crop top are decently attractive and a tube top and shorts is a fairly sexy look as well. I'm not sure why you think her panties not being visible is a full stop on Jill being a sexy and attractive character. No one complained that she wasn't sexy enough in RE1 even though Capcom made the choice to give her pants instead of Lara Croft tactical shorts. Is RE1 censored because they could have made it sexier but didn't? That's exactly what happened here: they could have made the game sexier but they didn't. Case closed. I'm very sorry. I can link you to some mods or browser searches if you need more from your Jill to be happy.

Your censorship argument would hold more water if, you know... they actually censored anything in this game. "Change I don't like" =/= censorship.
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