Being the Mastermind isn't Fun

[Alfred Kodani]

I'm not gonna argue balance or who's OP.

I'm just going to say that I have no incentive to play mastermind in it's current state. Heck even the challenges don't offer anything to masterminds.

I've spent too many hours leveling up Annette, Daniel, Alex, and Spencer for some half decent cards. But was it worth it?

There are only two games you encounter as mastermind, the fast win where you wipe the floor with survivors that are just learning the game, or the long drawn-out loss where you gain no momentum. Neither of these outcomes are satisfying.

I'm not going to subject myself to this farce when I can have far more fun with friends as a survivor.

But that's the sad thing, isn't it? I know what it's like to play against me. I know that the guy behind the camera is miserable.

You can't have a decent game when one side hates it.

[EQOAnostalgia]

I haven't played MM with any serious intentions in at least a week and a half. No... it isn't fun. It's a f'ing chore.

[EQOAnostalgia]

OH and like OP said, i feel like a PoS when i get to the end, because i know how the guy behind the cam feels about my OP af build lol. I can't begin to tell you how many times the MM sent the bio directly after me every time, out of pure frustration with my heals, hacks, or ability to pick people up.

So even when i win, it feels cheesy af because i know i only won, because my team didn't have an absolute dead weight MORON holding us back lol. Great point OP. Even if it wasn't a balance nightmare, someone is usually feeling cheesed on.

Then i sh#$ you not, every single match there is at least one jerk, emoting and refusing to leave at the end for a few seconds at least. I mean... you do know he can shut the connection down right? Lol. Just take your cheesy win and go.

[初音 ♥ ミク]

I hate the controls.

[American Dove Mitten]

You guys focusing only on negatives

I had so many halarious games

Just recently I juked 4 veterans with the good old 'Hide Yorick behind the dishes', it worked, and they were rolling me before that. Outsmarted those speed runners man ;)

[Deathraven13]

Yeah honestly it's boring, it's either you win because Survivors are bad or you lose because survivors know how to play.

Also there is no real reason to play the game since there is no fun, hence why the game only have under 1000 players on PC, there is no goal, no patch notes, a lot of things are cryptic, and overall the game as been badly handled.........

[初音 ♥ ミク]

Originally posted by 天:

Yeah honestly it's boring, it's either you win because Survivors are bad or you lose because survivors know how to play.

Also there is no real reason to play the game since there is no fun, hence why the game only have under 1000 players on PC, there is no goal, no patch notes, a lot of things are cryptic, and overall the game as been badly handled.........

This is what happens when you outsource your games and not make them in house.

[Eric Clapped 'Em]

Yeah, there really is only two ways to win: you win in 3 minutes or less, or you lose with 7+ minutes left because you can't do anything. That is all because of how imbalanced this game can be.

I used to love the mastermind when the game came out because it really felt like a strategy game with another level of fun by controlling creatures and such. But over time the game felt like being a bore-chore. I either spent more time waiting for a game than playing it because I'd win so fast, or I'd have so much anxiety playing or to play if I kept getting matched against premades that never lose.

I haven't really played the game in two weeks, but I like to come look around hoping things get better, but every time its just sad news after sad news. The good thing is at least people are starting to realize that masterminds have huge problems despite the outcry of "how OP" they were at launch. Bad people were bad and that is why masterminds can win. Simple as that.

[Eric Clapped 'Em]

Originally posted by 初音 ♥ ミク:

Originally posted by 天:

Yeah honestly it's boring, it's either you win because Survivors are bad or you lose because survivors know how to play.

Also there is no real reason to play the game since there is no fun, hence why the game only have under 1000 players on PC, there is no goal, no patch notes, a lot of things are cryptic, and overall the game as been badly handled.........

This is what happens when you outsource your games and not make them in house.

Ehhhh, last time Capcom tried a MP Resident Evil game we got

https://store.steampowered.com/app/390340/Umbrella_CorpsBiohazard_Umbrella_Corps/

Even Capcom can't really make good multiplayer Resident Evil games, and really hasn't since Outbreak. Even that game wasn't amazing, but just stood out because of the time frame it was released.

[EQOAnostalgia]

Oddly though... i still play it. Survivors i mean, because it gives me a tiny sampling of what Outbreak used to be like lol. Outbreak was fantastic for oldschool fans btw. Not perfect no.

Idk i guess i'm just an idiot in love with RE since 96...

[MilfanitoX]

It's getting boring to play as survivor because encountering MMs even at higher levels that can actually put up a fight is getting rarer by the day it seems. I don't think it's survivors that need nerfing, It's MMs that need a rework to stand against the BS survivors are capable of.

[Beszedits]

Originally posted by 天:

Yeah honestly it's boring, it's either you win because Survivors are bad or you lose because survivors know how to play.

Also there is no real reason to play the game since there is no fun, hence why the game only have under 1000 players on PC, there is no goal, no patch notes, a lot of things are cryptic, and overall the game as been badly handled.........

well you play gun spencer, which is boring AF for you and the survivors. plus, you're right. anyone with a moderate experience in this game knows how to counter cooling fan spencer.

[机车小王子]

I feel the same way ,bro

[EQOAnostalgia]

Originally posted by Caim the One-Eyed Man:

It's getting boring to play as survivor because encountering MMs even at higher levels that can actually put up a fight is getting rarer by the day it seems. I don't think it's survivors that need nerfing, It's MMs that need a rework to stand against the BS survivors are capable of.

I mean we need snappable maps. But we won't get them lol. If MM were able to choose between let's say 20 tile sets, to build a map themselves... this problem would be non existent. We could then be focusing on the cheating instead.

No game can last with this level of cheating and balance issues. It's in a bad spot and i'm pretty sure Capcom recognized this a long time ago, and just slapped it onto RE3 lol. I'll be shocked if they make this the first online RE title they don't abandon from the jump.

But no nerfs need be done, if we had the ability to attach rooms as we saw fit. The speed running is the main issue here imo. People know full well where everything is, and the maps are just too small to compensate for that fact.

You give MM the ability to customize, you give survivors more points based on how far they got, as opposed to making it out. Making it out should be rare and idgas what anyone says lol. It should feel GREAT to make it out, especially with a full team, and if you don't you should still get more than fair rewards.

This is how you fix a game like this imo. Plus you aid the lore of kidnapped survivors... they shouldn't know the maps like the back of their hand! It adds replay value, AND they can release future DLC to add on to old maps with new rooms.

Did they think of this insanely, amazing idea? Nope... did they put in an anti-cheat? SH$# no lol.

[JamBeezer]

You are telling me this?

I just got Alex to rank 50. It was pure torture man.

I never wish that on anyone.

[EQOAnostalgia]

Originally posted by UltraX:

You are telling me this?

I just got Alex to rank 50. It was pure torture man.

I never wish that on anyone.

My lord in heaven... WHY man!?