At a loss

[Tux]

lockpicks?
access to Bizzare?
no idea how to use the sawbucks that I found

I have spoken to everyone in the game

[Charismatic Zombie]

Bizzare is not implemented yet. As for lockpicks, the hardware vendor and One Stop Shop sometimes sells them- but the drill press in Deekula B is the best method. It takes metal scrap and sheet metal.

Sawbucks are used to turn logs into planks and planks into various items

[Relthen]

Originally posted by Charismatic Zombie:

Bizzare is not implemented yet. As for lockpicks, the hardware vendor and One Stop Shop sometimes sells them- but the drill press in Deekula B is the best method. It takes metal scrap and sheet metal.

Sawbucks are used to turn logs into planks and planks into various items

To use them you actually need the materials in your inventory.

[Filthy peasant]

the drill over the hardware store never has power, how does that work?

[veryinky]

The drill in Deekula B, one door to the right, does have power.

[Tux]

Originally posted by Relthen:

Originally posted by Charismatic Zombie:

Bizzare is not implemented yet. As for lockpicks, the hardware vendor and One Stop Shop sometimes sells them- but the drill press in Deekula B is the best method. It takes metal scrap and sheet metal.

Sawbucks are used to turn logs into planks and planks into various items

To use them you actually need the materials in your inventory.

do you need a blueprint? otherwise I have no idea what the material requirements would be

[Ded]

Originally posted by Tux:

Originally posted by Relthen:

To use them you actually need the materials in your inventory.

do you need a blueprint? otherwise I have no idea what the material requirements would be

Move a piece of sheet metal from your inventory to the drill press's inventory and you should have the option to craft lockpicks. Make sure the drill press is powered on too.

[Tux]

Originally posted by Ded:

Originally posted by Tux:

do you need a blueprint? otherwise I have no idea what the material requirements would be

Move a piece of sheet metal from your inventory to the drill press's inventory and you should have the option to craft lockpicks. Make sure the drill press is powered on too.

oh wow.

thanks

[veryinky]

Blueprints let you see recipes all the time, otherwise you need to items into the machine's inventory to see what they can make.

Important ones to know:
Machine tool: (angle grinder, drill, industrial lathe)
Lockpick: scrap metal
Machine Parts: Metal Slab
Mechanical Watch: Machine Parts+broken glass+metal bar
Furnace: (brick furnace, gas furnace)
Metal Bar: 2xScrap metal
Metal Bar: 10xMetal Shavings
Nails: Metal Bar
Heated metal Bar: Metal Bar

Drop hot metal bar on ground and hit it with a hammer of some kind to get sheet metal

Angle Grinder is terrible. Don't get it.

[Tux]

Originally posted by veryinky:

Blueprints let you see recipes all the time, otherwise you need to items into the machine's inventory to see what they can make.

Important ones to know:
Machine tool: (angle grinder, drill, industrial lathe)
Lockpick: scrap metal
Machine Parts: Metal Slab
Mechanical Watch: Machine Parts+broken glass+metal bar
Furnace: (brick furnace, gas furnace)
Metal Bar: 2xScrap metal
Metal Bar: 10xMetal Shavings
Nails: Metal Bar
Heated metal Bar: Metal Bar

Drop hot metal bar on ground and hit it with a hammer of some kind to get sheet metal

Angle Grinder is terrible. Don't get it.

what does industrial lathe make specifically that others do not?
Machine tool?

[Samnson]

Originally posted by Tux:

Originally posted by Relthen:

To use them you actually need the materials in your inventory.

do you need a blueprint? otherwise I have no idea what the material requirements would be

If you have the BP's it should be easy enough to understand what you need,

But you can also seemingly unlock BP's you technically "don't know" if you happen to put the corresponding materials into the machine, as it will pop up as an option.

The BP's really only help you plan, you don't need need them to craft things.

[Tux]

Originally posted by Samnson:

Originally posted by Tux:

do you need a blueprint? otherwise I have no idea what the material requirements would be

If you have the BP's it should be easy enough to understand what you need,

But you can also seemingly unlock BP's you technically "don't know" if you happen to put the corresponding materials into the machine, as it will pop up as an option.

The BP's really only help you plan, you don't need need them to craft things.

Well for example

The Brick Furnace does not show Glass Pane unless you put the proper materials in. It also does not show or tell you to put Gas Canisters in a different location.

There are also examples like for furniture parts .

Additionally, many of these crafting stations have three slots on the left all with zero description.

[Samnson]

Originally posted by Tux:

Originally posted by Samnson:

If you have the BP's it should be easy enough to understand what you need,

But you can also seemingly unlock BP's you technically "don't know" if you happen to put the corresponding materials into the machine, as it will pop up as an option.

The BP's really only help you plan, you don't need need them to craft things.

Well for example

The Brick Furnace does not show Glass Pane unless you put the proper materials in. It also does not show or tell you to put Gas Canisters in a different location.

There are also examples like for furniture parts .

Additionally, many of these crafting stations have three slots on the left all with zero description.

Thats all trial and error learning really.
Crafting stations come with different levels as well, so I imagine some items can only be crafted if you have a better version of the station too.

The game doesn't hold your hand, much in the same way the INFRA didn't hold your hand either, you need to read notes and figure out some of the mechanics by yourself.

[Ivellios]

some things (watches example) you need the blueprint/recipe for
most things do not.
once you make something that you don't need the recipe for, it becomes unlocked and forever available for you on the machine.
for example: you move 5 opened food cans to the furnace, it shows steel bar. if you remove them, it'll disappear, but if you instead make the item, it'll remain but grayed out as long as the requirements are not met.

different machines have different properties. band saw is faster, much lower chance to fail, and you can leave it running and do something else. sawbuck, chainsaw sawbuck, bandsaw, table saw. (i don't remember the order for last 2)
angle grinder, drill press, geared drill press, and lathe. same thing. the better the machine: lower chance to fail, faster, and automation.

first tier machines often require your constant presence to use, not always. sawbucks do though.

[Tux]

Originally posted by Samnson:

Originally posted by Tux:

Well for example

The Brick Furnace does not show Glass Pane unless you put the proper materials in. It also does not show or tell you to put Gas Canisters in a different location.

There are also examples like for furniture parts .

Additionally, many of these crafting stations have three slots on the left all with zero description.

Thats all trial and error learning really.
Crafting stations come with different levels as well, so I imagine some items can only be crafted if you have a better version of the station too.

The game doesn't hold your hand, much in the same way the INFRA didn't hold your hand either, you need to read notes and figure out some of the mechanics by yourself.

yeah that is a game aspect that I really do not like, never have, never will.

but it is what it is.
The reason I play the game is not related to puzzles. I like the rebuilding idea.

[Meadowbrook]

Originally posted by Tux:

lockpicks?
access to Bizzare?
no idea how to use the sawbucks that I found

I have spoken to everyone in the game

By the way, the lockpicks you can craft at Deekula B sell for 425 OC a stack at the robot dude's shop, also the shop has a safe upstairs. Save your game when you walk into the shop, get the dialogue to punch him, then do it enough until he gives you an error message, write it down, reload your save before you punched him out and go crack the safe with the code he gave.