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Is cost of leveling or re-leveling girls broken?
It's rather easy to level girls initially and with autoclicker you can get to some obnoxious levels (like 1500 with Hypno-tan). That's still being in low price range per level. However, after reset re-leveling the same girls suddenly cost A LOT more. As for example, to level Hypno-tan from 1275 to 1300 I need 8Q. Even one level is 340T!

Or, maybe, is it initial leveling broken instead? Since we skip a few levels (up to 5) with every mind-break could it be that price of following level to next mind-break aren't adjusted by these levels and only manual upgrades count. So, when I re-level them from zero these missing levels pile up and produce proper level price.
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TheShadowQueen Dec 10, 2019 @ 4:49pm 
Originally posted by YetiSwarm:
Yes, initial leveling is being quite generous because of free mind break levels. There are a couple other people discussing this recently in the bug reports thread too. It appears that the costs do not correspond to the level, but rather there's a list of costs you pay in order. The first time through, when you skip levels with mind breaks and get +5 or +4, you're progressing through that list at about half speed (for all +5s) and costs stay low longer. When you come back after a reset and have to pay for all the levels rather than ~half of them, you progress through the upgrade cost list twice as fast and pay exponentially more.

You can keep costs down by using the library's time attack mode. This also counts as mind breaking and makes the levels go up, without making the cost per level go up. If you were to get half your levels this way when releveling, the costs would match your initial playthrough (except for the fee paid to use the library).
I wanna leave this behind as a piece of testing I did before. I've made so far 2 separate playthroughs of this game. (I deleted the first one though) At first it's feels like a breeze regarding on what was explained here... soon after gathering 400+ gems I realized that it was almost impossible to upgrade all my girls given that it required more mb energy than previously and the amount of mb energy I was getting was extremely low. At this point I was collecting trillions but decided to delete my first playthrough to test something else.
How to max a girl?
This was an intriguing question given my previous experience since whenever you restart the game you require more wb energy to mindbreak her. So I was mostly wandering myself if there was an end? So I test my theory and waited for 2 days to see how far I could managed to upgrade my girls.

First I decided to go extremely slow and upgrade as much as possible the weakest girl since you can lvl up fast with her. I used her and didn't got an upgrade on the others until I had the library unlocked. Once I managed to get her to a certain level that allowed all my girls to reach up to lvl 1,000. I upgrade the rest to 1,000 as well. Reached up to 400+ gems and unlocked the store and 4 summon girls. I never upgraded manually any of the girls but Erika as I previously did. (Keep in mind I never used the regular +1, +5, +10 or +25 leveling up but only to Erika) Foreseeing that it would get more expensive I decided to base level her as much as I could along with my power ups and leveling up the summons first since they provide fast mp energy but making Erika study them in the library. By this point I managed to get most of the achievments but 2 along with their buffs and collected up to 600+ gems and the all girls were a little over 1500+ except Erika since she was over 4300+ levels. I had some base levels covered by the mindbreak bonus which made it cheaper to get there.

The third reset I managed to get all my summon girls and the secret agent (Which is the toughest ♥♥♥♥♥ to upgrade of them all and gives you trash mp energy/minute) I still didn't upgrade some of my girls by base leveling, a few missclicks here and there though, but at this point Erika was asking me for over 160T mp energy, but with this I managed to upgrade all my girls at lvl 3016 levels with 752 gems waiting to collect ( Upgrading all girls still in progress but confident that they can be easily be upgraded up to that point)

I did manage to hit her previous max cap and I can level her up once again... At this point what I try to do it's choose the next weaker girl and level her base up (She's 3016 but the fact that I never level up my girls but through the library made it so cheap to upgrade her up to at this current point 6155) Once that done I can upgrade my girls up to 4308 with Sally but one person, Erika. Now to upgrade Erika through the library it's asking me for 11.49 Quatrillion mp of energy. I was expecting this since on my previous game they were asking me for a similar ridicuous amount.

Conclusion?
The only way I see I may be able to continue to upgrade Erika it's by obtaining as many gems as I can before restarting the game and level Erika up as many times as I can since she's the only cheap girl who can take me to that certain level I need. I think my biggest question here is... it's there a limit?

If you got another possible way or know about a place discussing about this sent me the link or reply your opinion to this method of leveling up. I just don't see Erika being Maxed any other way.

One more question, what are the numbers regarding Erika's massive demand of points regarding the library. Does it base it on how many times you multiply a level base or percentage? and how much since this absurd amount of money leaves me no choice but to keep spending base levels on Erika for sure.
Last edited by TheShadowQueen; Dec 10, 2019 @ 5:00pm
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Date Posted: Dec 8, 2019 @ 6:35pm
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