Sell 65 products...?! Now that is a bummer

[123]

I loved the game, so far, hoewer, the last couple objectives are just a boring pia. I got literally nothing to do but wait, day after day, until "luck" strikes to sell 65 goods of each type, finally. I am in year 3, max level, full appeal, nothing to buy, nothing to do but harvest, restock, watch my three employees running around. Oh, and 100% specialized on the product as well. And now what, am I supposed to do that for a whole year until season sales make customers finally buy 65 in a day?

Looked up the "events", the task in question is alchemy, you would think an "alchemy fair" would do the trick. After 20 long boring waiting-days the event was finally, finally there, but bam, there also was a plague. So, I went once again 8 items short or so, now waiting 10 more days for summer sale.
I would really like to "finish" games, just for the sake of it, but in this case this part is just overly boring so I likely won't.

[Banisha]

You could ask the devs to change this.....

[123]

That is... kinda the intention of this post ;-) - and also the opportunity for others to comment. I wonder if it's only my problem, but I am pretty sure I did everything I could and there's nothing to do but waiting now.

[Banisha]

I haven't reach this stage yet, sorry.

[gurneywars]

Under guides there is a way to specialize your store.

[Aceria]

Yeah, you'll need a specialized store to get that objective done. At max level there's 33 customers who on average should buy 2 items (at late game that average should be slightly higher).

During the Shopping Night event (which is once per season) you get twice the amount of customers, so you should have 132 sale opportunities during that night. If you're specialized that should make it easy enough to get that objective done.

If you aren't specialized it's pretty much impossible (unless you have insane luck with RNG).

[123]

Well of course I was specialized.... See above, I wrote: "Oh, and 100% specialized on the product as well.

I am very sure there is a flaw in the number, I have all difficulties done now, for very hard and hard I specialized as well because it is the easiest way; the 65 just never pops for me except I wait like, years for the RNG.

And I don't understand where 132 comes from; shopping nights never went past 70 for me. With lots of luck I finally made it past 65, for my last product, but this was year 3, close to year 4, I had to wait quite a while after maxing out everything else.

PS: I am working on the last steam-achievement with the tiles now, which likely also takes a while. So I can check the numbers once again, once I hit max appeal and see how long it takes to pop this time (if it does at all).

My guess is that there's simply too many other events interfering with the shopping night one, that is what can make this objective so tedious to fulfill.
And in case you want to do all four 65-objectives given for your shop, you have to re-spec four times, so if shopping night is your only or best chance, that alone takes a year. Now, with a bit of bad luck and interfering events it can easily take 2 or more years (with nothing else to do), which was my problem posted initially.

PPS: And I was going for all objectives, partly, because I was curious if something extraordinary might happen if I do everything listed... but nothing happened, done, poof, there just were no objectives anymore :-D. This also could be changed and rewarded, at least with a popup or so, for the very few who invest this patience.

[xaviersxmen]

It kind of sucks that we are forced to specialize out sales. I mean i sell everything and love it like that. Knowing that later in the game im gonna be forced to change that and all my stands just to finish the game. That kind of sucks big time.

[Aceria]

Just wanted to update you real quick on this, I had my colleague investigate this and report back on the min/max items sold and he noted that during spring/summer it worked as intended, and autumn/winter it did not.

I'm still investigating as to what's actually going wrong, but just wanted to let you know that I'm looking into it.

[123]

Oh ty very much... this could well add to the problem of taking years to finish.

And perhaps it's possible despite to also set this objective to 40 or 50 to make it less lengthy for those going for all 4 of them. Re-spec takes some days already and there is no special reward for doing all objectives anyway; players will rather start over to go for the steam achievements, if it takes real long.

[123]

As for another test, I am playing as a taylor (selling cloths) in this playthrough, hit 30 appeal already middle of Winter, year 1. Now I was incredibly lucky for once, winter solstice event met with the peak of the random trade fair event. Alas, even with the two positive events I failed the 65, again (people stopped buying at 61). So something seems definitly off.

[Fred the Muppet]

The mistake people make doing this is thinking bigger is better, it isn't. Set up 10 stalls, 1 for each product in a circle from the entrance with your counter in the center. The less people need to walk the more they will buy and with your counter in the center your workers can restock quickly.

[xaviersxmen]

The problem is resetting a huge shop just to do the thing. Also to respecialize everything is a pain in the rear. Further they walk the less they buy...LOL

[Banisha]

As it stands, I have to completely agree with the questioner. Now, almost at the end of the third spring, I keep falling short of a few items sold in alchemy, hardware, and cooked/baked meals.
The prospect of having to play like this for another year is absolutely not inviting.
Still, I wish all developers and store owners a very happy and above all healthy 2023. Cheers!

[Limdood]

Originally posted by 123:

. Re-spec takes some days already and there is no special reward for doing all objectives anyway; players will rather start over to go for the steam achievements, if it takes real long.

respec takes only 5 game days. there's no way you're hitting those objectives in a new game 5 days in. it is astronomically faster to respec your shop than to try to start over. Even in terms of real life time - which is actually faster, because you can just swap all your items over, open the store, immediately close the store, for 5 days straight, and BAM - you're 100% re-specialized into the new category.

If you know you need the shopping night, you could take it a step farther and immediately open -> close EVERY day all year until you get a shopping night. Is it cheesy? heck yeah it is. But it should work perfectly. Other than the debt and paying your completely optional and unnecessary workers, there is no shop upkeep, so there is nothing keeping you from spamming through days to get the achievement.