Repetitive

[Lalau]

Hi all, I played the demo and enjoyed, so I bought the game, but now after 4 hours I feel it's very repetitive. No news in the story. I'm just keeping day after day selling rumours and doing all the new quests I see. I have more thatn 80 in credibility and 20 in perill. When will the story trigger? Will it be like that all the game?

[RoxyTheOriginal]

I'm not sure what you mean by when will the game trigger? It is a novel (book) type game. Did you finish the game? Did you play again and make different choices? That is the game. If you were looking for a time management or shoot em up or arcade style game, um - this is not it. While credibility and peril play a role in the game as do selling gossip, have you chosen conversations wisely? Have you chosen to not sell the gossip and instead publish the gossip to give the side you want more power?

I also want to mention that from the very outset of the game, your very early choices will make a difference. So, when you are in the carriage riding to Paris - those choices will first effect whether you the VinCountess or Maxim. From there, each choice whether it be a venue of a person or venue of going to the park, will effect the game.

Reaching Baron De Maxim for me was the hardest, and then seeing him lose power, but it opened up all new gameplay. It was the same characters, but different, with a much different ending. Hope that helps.

[StayPuftMM]

It's hard to give good advice without knowing a lot of different things. My best guess is you've missed some big quest lines and/or were really fast about finishing the ones you have. I had new stuff to do through most of my playthrough (I've done one and am still deciding what to do on the second). Near the end I was running in to a lot of repeat events at parties and the city map was pretty empty, but if I was only doing things with two factions so there could have been more if I spread myself more thin.

[Lalau]

Originally posted by RoxyTheOriginal:

I'm not sure what you mean by when will the game trigger? It is a novel (book) type game. Did you finish the game? Did you play again and make different choices? That is the game. If you were looking for a time management or shoot em up or arcade style game, um - this is not it. While credibility and peril play a role in the game as do selling gossip, have you chosen conversations wisely? Have you chosen to not sell the gossip and instead publish the gossip to give the side you want more power?

I also want to mention that from the very outset of the game, your very early choices will make a difference. So, when you are in the carriage riding to Paris - those choices will first effect whether you the VinCountess or Maxim. From there, each choice whether it be a venue of a person or venue of going to the park, will effect the game.

Reaching Baron De Maxim for me was the hardest, and then seeing him lose power, but it opened up all new gameplay. It was the same characters, but different, with a much different ending. Hope that helps.

That's the thing, I've not even finished it once. I play a lot novel games, but this one has me lost. I do every quest it appears, I go almost to all parties and sometimes I sell and sometimes I push them (towards the republic always). I don't see any approach to any character and the story is stuck. Johanna has run away from home and I saw her in a party. Also I've interact with Antoine a few times. That's all. For almost an hour not a single pink quest.

Originally posted by Garent:

It's hard to give good advice without knowing a lot of different things. My best guess is you've missed some big quest lines and/or were really fast about finishing the ones you have. I had new stuff to do through most of my playthrough (I've done one and am still deciding what to do on the second). Near the end I was running in to a lot of repeat events at parties and the city map was pretty empty, but if I was only doing things with two factions so there could have been more if I spread myself more thin.

I don't know at which point I am, but probably is as you said that I do it too quickly. Most of the conversations are empty and the green quest boring. I really don't know if continue or not playing. :(

[StayPuftMM]

Is Antoine the only character you're building a friendship with? I don't know the game's mechanics, but it's possible he's the only person whose relationship you're building and you're past the point where you can start the storylines for the other characters. If that's the case, it would explain why you don't have many events. Might be best to skip parties and just use gossip to influence your preferred factions until the next act?

[Lalau]

Originally posted by Garent:

Is Antoine the only character you're building a friendship with? I don't know the game's mechanics, but it's possible he's the only person whose relationship you're building and you're past the point where you can start the storylines for the other characters. If that's the case, it would explain why you don't have many events. Might be best to skip parties and just use gossip to influence your preferred factions until the next act?

I tried to go up with Antoine, Elisabeth and Armande. And now Elisabeth and the priest are friends.

[StayPuftMM]

Which act are you on?

[Lalau]

Originally posted by Garent:

Which act are you on?

According to the achievements, in chapter 2

[StayPuftMM]

Best advice I can give then is to not bother with parties for the rest of the act and just sleep a lot or repeat that event in the town that gives a random gossip and use it to sway factions towards what you want. Go on dates if you can.
But if you're not having fun then you're not having fun. Don't force yourself to play if you lose interest. The ending isn't bad, but it's not going to blow your mind if you spend an hour being bored to get to it.

[Lalau]

Originally posted by Garent:

Best advice I can give then is to not bother with parties for the rest of the act and just sleep a lot or repeat that event in the town that gives a random gossip and use it to sway factions towards what you want. Go on dates if you can.
But if you're not having fun then you're not having fun. Don't force yourself to play if you lose interest. The ending isn't bad, but it's not going to blow your mind if you spend an hour being bored to get to it.

Hi, at the end I managed to end the game following your advices. I went with the relationship up with Antoine and Elisabeth and left the parties and just get gossips to make the revolutionaries up. I found quite disappointed the final part, since there's nothing to do in the map. Also my credibility was 100, so the trial was really easy. I guess I'll not play I again :(

[StayPuftMM]

Sorry to hear that. I got a different ending and never knew there was a trial at all until I checked the boards here to see what I wanted to try.

[Lalau]

Originally posted by Garent:

Sorry to hear that. I got a different ending and never knew there was a trial at all until I checked the boards here to see what I wanted to try.

Oh! I'm really sorry I did a spoiler!!!! I actually thought it was that way since I don't know what I did to end like that. Sorry :((

[StayPuftMM]

Oh no, it wasn't you. I knew about it before this from another post lol.

[RoxyTheOriginal]

Originally posted by Lalau:

Originally posted by RoxyTheOriginal:

I'm not sure what you mean by when will the game trigger? It is a novel (book) type game. Did you finish the game? Did you play again and make different choices? That is the game. If you were looking for a time management or shoot em up or arcade style game, um - this is not it. While credibility and peril play a role in the game as do selling gossip, have you chosen conversations wisely? Have you chosen to not sell the gossip and instead publish the gossip to give the side you want more power?

I also want to mention that from the very outset of the game, your very early choices will make a difference. So, when you are in the carriage riding to Paris - those choices will first effect whether you the VinCountess or Maxim. From there, each choice whether it be a venue of a person or venue of going to the park, will effect the game.

Reaching Baron De Maxim for me was the hardest, and then seeing him lose power, but it opened up all new gameplay. It was the same characters, but different, with a much different ending. Hope that helps.

That's the thing, I've not even finished it once. I play a lot novel games, but this one has me lost. I do every quest it appears, I go almost to all parties and sometimes I sell and sometimes I push them (towards the republic always). I don't see any approach to any character and the story is stuck. Johanna has run away from home and I saw her in a party. Also I've interact with Antoine a few times. That's all. For almost an hour not a single pink quest.

It has you lost because it is not your run of the mill novel game. It requires a few things about your knowledge of France in this timeframe, and about YOURSELF. <handing you a tissue> You cannot just 'do every quest that appears'. How mindless is that? Do you check the board on who has what power before you sell or publish gossip? Have you remained true - from the outset - in your choices - to whom your loyalty lies? Or are you just trying to be that social butterfly in the game while wasting your real life hours? <handing you another tissue> 'You push them toward the Republic always.' Uh huh. Therein lies your problem. You must think. <ahem - hugging you> If you want a different gameplay - you must not think of it in terms of only what you always want. Selfishness does not work in having a different ending. <wiping your mascara off your face with my pretty french handkerchief> It requires that you think like the other person, for the greater good of what you want to accomplish. Now, let's go have a nice glass of wine and a nibble at a good, local pattiserie. My treat.

Originally posted by Garent:

It's hard to give good advice without knowing a lot of different things. My best guess is you've missed some big quest lines and/or were really fast about finishing the ones you have. I had new stuff to do through most of my playthrough (I've done one and am still deciding what to do on the second). Near the end I was running in to a lot of repeat events at parties and the city map was pretty empty, but if I was only doing things with two factions so there could have been more if I spread myself more thin.

I don't know at which point I am, but probably is as you said that I do it too quickly. Most of the conversations are empty and the green quest boring. I really don't know if continue or not playing. :(

I felt the same way, but once you have those basics down, trust me - Ludovico will become quite the lion! Maxim will be dethroned, and you might accomplish changing history. Keep me informed. Next time - you buy. :)

[RoxyTheOriginal]

Originally posted by Garent:

Is Antoine the only character you're building a friendship with? I don't know the game's mechanics, but it's possible he's the only person whose relationship you're building and you're past the point where you can start the storylines for the other characters. If that's the case, it would explain why you don't have many events. Might be best to skip parties and just use gossip to influence your preferred factions until the next act?

Honestly, I think you need to think of it from Yvette's point of view in USING the others to achieve her goal...this can be difficult, but is certainly possible. I read a book a while ago about Private versus Public morality, published in the late 1800s. Very interesting book. You would do best to think from the outset what you wish to accomplish. All the world is a stage - and depending on the circles in which you run - you can hold a whole lot of power.