Am I the only person who realized that Julius Little is more of a genocidal psychopath than Johnny Gat and Playa?

[aidel1011]

The explanation for why I said this is in the video made by Patrick aka TheProfessional and Polish-Mercenary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcUU9ik3MDU&lc=Ugzf9u-G0Rx36oeylPB4AaABAg.9X7fabUOMRc9X8CjIDFYv9

I believe Julius Little is more of a genocidal psychopath than the Playa and Johnny Gat by definition. Let's look at the 20 traits of a psychopath.
https://www.personalgrowthcounseling.net/twenty-warning-signs-you-may-be-dealing-with-a-psychopath/

1. Superficially charming, "silver tongued": Yep, he is definitely charming. Listen to how he talks to the Saints. He definitely has his way with people and how he can get on their good sides. He even tricks Troy into praising him and making him do business with the Colombian Mafia together with the rest of the Saints.

2. Self-absorbed and egocentric: We should also count his arrogant attitude, the one Dex actually has. Julius believes he is even better than Troy and that others are "fair games". He has a serious supremacy complex.

3. Easily bored, in need of constant stimulation: What is Julius' constant stimulation? Manipulating gangs until they become more useless than Ultor and he takes personal pleasure in it.

4. Habitual liar: Julius is also a habitual conspiracy theorist and a psychopathic hypocrite. The Saints were never Vice Kings that wore purple. Did Benjamin King sell drugs? NO! Did Benjamin King continue attacking the Saints, leading to more civilian murders after his gang is kicked out of Saints Row? NO! It was the Saints who trafficked drugs to Vice Kings turf leading to more drug dealer attacks on Vice Kings, it's the same Saints who unnecessarily invaded Vice Kings turf leading to many civilian casualties and Julius ordered all these things for pleasure. Ben King never planned the police offensive on the Saints until Tanya's turf gets attacked.

5. Manipulative: Yep, just look at what he did to the Playa and how he controlled upon the Playa by unfair means to his advantage, how he manipulated the Vice Kings, how he manipulated Johnny and Lin and how he even manipulated the inhabitants of Saints Row in general. Julius is also an evil gaslighter in that he makes people like Ben King question the validity of their own thoughts while gaslighters question nothing of their own thoughts, but instead follow their sadistic desires.

6. Shows no remorse, rationalises wrongdoings, says people deserve it: What did Julius say to others? He says things like "You owe me" and "I don't gotta explain ♥♥♥♥ to you" and other types of propaganda. He even believes that even all the peasants in Saints Row that had nothing to do with the gangs deserve to be displaced and he even took serious pleasure in all that. He never felt guilt for his actions, but instead fears he will get exposed for them.

7. Shallow Emotions: The emotions Julius shows towards the Saints and the Vice Kings are not emotions like remorse nor empathy, but emotions like fear, joy, frustration, anger, happiness, sadness, glee, boredom, depression, infatuation, etc. and those emotions are not shown for good reasons at all.

8. Lacks empathy: Julius never shared the feelings of others, not even towards Benjamin King's sister, Angela Queen. The so-called "empathy" he shows is pure propaganda. Julius has an empathy switch in which it turns on to trick people and leech them of their uses if they never found out and then it switches off if he gets exposed or loses value for his puppets.

9. Exploits the goodwill of others, especially financially: Look at what he did to the Vice Kings and Saints. He exploits their financial goodwill for many years, even bragging about ruling Stilwater with others' power. He never did anything to prevent the displacement of Saints Row inhabitants because it doesn't give him financial power.

10. Sexually promiscuous: He was almost promiscuous but Angela died way before Julius could do anything meaning Angela ran out of uses for Julius' promiscuous mind before he can even act upon it.

11. Impulsive: We should also count the fact that Julius never took criticism from his own lieutenants, pretends he is reasonable while he is not and tricks Troy into believing that drug businesses are necessary for "the good of the streets". I believe he took pleasure in the murder of Marshall Winslow too because Winslow is one of the politicians who can expose Julius Little to the public.

12. Behaves recklessly: Julius is always reckless, always putting himself and his comrades in unnecessary danger for things like sadistic pleasures, fun, dopamine for his boredom and depression and even selfish benefits. He forced the Playa into serious suicide missions.

13. Accepts no responsibility for his actions: He blames his own crew and not himself. He orders his gang into suicide missions and make them take the blame for Julius. Julius thinks he never deserved to be blamed. It's always 99 percent of his gangsters that had to bear the blame, but "not him".

14: Had behaviour problems as a child: This is debatable though but I believe he was spoilt from birth and the Vice Kings made him even more spoiled than ever. Being spoiled should count as child behaviour problems.

15: Lacks inhibitions: Not completely true. He was never controlled by anyone except by Dexter Dex Jackson, Dane Vogel, Chief Monroe, Alderman Hughes and Eric Gryphon. His puppeteers.

16: Has no long term goals: If you think about it, Julius is constantly betraying 99 percent of his gangs except Dex and Troy but in the end, Dex ended up betraying him instead and getting him killed by the Saints, so it's questionable if Julius has any long term plans for his future.

17: Has many short term relationships: Julius kept long term relationships with Ben King, Angela and the Saints, but it's to manipulate them for a long time, observing their moves, but look what he did to the Playa (Julius' relationship with the Playa is shorter than his relationship with other Saints).

18: No respect for authority, including the law: Julius doesn't even respect Vice Kings' above the law rules, let alone his own rules. The only ones who follow Julius' rules are his puppets, even Johnny follows his orders. Julius commited so many crimes La Mafia de Los Carnales, La Mafia Colombiana, Vice Kings and Westside Rollerz commited like Extortion, Prostitution (reference to Tanya), Drug-related crimes, Grand Theft Autos (including Grand Robberies), Illegal racings, Graffiti drawings, many other crimes the rival gangs did that Julius did too. Julius even encouraged insurance scams, Vandalism, etc. Julius is a criminal mastermind hiding behind his Ultor position.

19: Thinks they are never wrong: Julius never thought he is wrong. He never thought anything he did, even betraying his own gang for a faction that is no better is wrong and Playa ended up confronting him for that, even Johnny and Ben understand how wrong Julius is. Playa is one of the people who thinks Julius is so wrong and that Julius should've retired like King and that made Julius look like a fool hiding in fear and cowardice.

20: May be highly intelligent, but has no conscience: NO! Julius never had a conscience even in his death! Julius is seriously born evil and he always had ambitions of controlling Stilwater for his own pleasure and dopamine without any care for good, evil, honor nor loyalty. His "moral begging" is his final attempt at manipulation, to be able to manipulate others again, but Playa doesn't buy it anymore.

Would a psychopath feel guilty for failing to save Lin from William Sharp? Would a psychopath feel guilty for indirectly making Carlos sacrifice himself for Playa, helping him take down the Brotherhood out of personal conflicts? Would a psychopath feel guilty for failing to save Johnny’s wife, Aisha? Would a psychopath babysit Shaundi as if he/she is dating her and seeing her as a sister of the Saints? Julius would’ve felt nothing for all these three I mentioned. These are the questions Julius, Dex, Ultor and Hughes fanboys can’t answer correctly

Psychopaths are not the same as each other to remind you, but Julius is one of the worst psychopaths you can ever think of in fiction and one of the most evil villains in fiction. Playa and Johnny's Sociopathy is tame compared to Julius' psychopathy. There are many people in real life who are just like Julius such as the Roman governments as shown in Roman Easter Eggs in Saints Row.

TL;DR Julius Little is a psychopath.

This video is a very good explanation of Julius' psychopathy. I can't wait for a video about Dex's lore similar to this from TheProfessional

[jahpeg]

everyone in SR is a psychopath

[aidel1011]

Originally posted by (COURTACCUSED) scudgel:

everyone in SR is a psychopath

Not everyone. Does Troy lack remorse and empathy. Does Benjamin King lack empathy for members of his empire? Not even Johnny nor the Playa lack remorse towards what happened to Carlos, Lin and Aisha

[sshortguy1]

Originally posted by jewish war demon:

everyone in SR is a psychopath

he obviously never played the game , saying gat is a psychopath, he was the worst of them all

[aidel1011]

Originally posted by sshortguy1:

Originally posted by jewish war demon:

everyone in SR is a psychopath

he obviously never played the game , saying gat is a psychopath, he was the worst of them all

I did play the game

[jahpeg]

Originally posted by aidelrahman2001 titan.tf:

Originally posted by sshortguy1:

he obviously never played the game , saying gat is a psychopath, he was the worst of them all

I did play the game

0 hrs on record

[aidel1011]

Originally posted by scudgel, jewish war demon:

Originally posted by aidelrahman2001 titan.tf:

I did play the game

0 hrs on record

I played it for 262.5 hours

[fidget]

wow thats a lotta words
im not reading them

[Lughzi]

For everyone saying that the other saints (that aren't julius, i don't mean that horrible reboot) are psychopaths, NO! They aren't, most of them are either sociopaths or just normal gang members, you can see it in their traits.

[Lughzi]

Originally posted by fidget:

wow thats a lotta words
im not reading them

TL:DR Julius is an extreme psychopath and the worst in fiction ever.

[aidel1011]

Originally posted by Lughzi:

For everyone saying that the other saints (that aren't julius, i don't mean that horrible reboot) are psychopaths, NO! They aren't, most of them are either sociopaths or just normal gang members, you can see it in their traits.

Exactly. Most of these Saints Row gamers don't know jack about psychology. They probably "study" psychology using Hollywood.

[Lughzi]

You said it, the difference between an sociopath and a psychopath, is that the sociopath still feels human emotions even if sometimes they exhibit far too little, but those emotions are easily triggered by family and/or friends, take the Boss for example, he feels emotions towards his friends and his gang, now Julius who is a psychopath, feels nothing towards them they are like his means to an end, he cares too little but has the street smarts and a fake persona to bury that trait, but note that Julius always attacked first, he was power hungry, he said he did it for the greater good yet everything went south, all the things he said that were still happening were due to him and yet he refuses to atone for it, if he said to his gang that they weren't gonna push drugs they would listen to him, if he said for them not to kill innocent people they wouldn't do it, all of this could've been avoided if Julius had said the word, and the funny thing is he actually encouraged this behaviour, saying ♥♥♥♥ like if they representing kill them, do anything that gets us respect and word on the streets, basically saying go ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ as long as at the end of the day, you get the respect we need. Julius truly is a bigger prick and hypocrite than anyone i have ever seen, even stole Benjamin King's monologue lmao.

[Lughzi]

Originally posted by aidelrahman2001 titan.tf:

Originally posted by Lughzi:

For everyone saying that the other saints (that aren't julius, i don't mean that horrible reboot) are psychopaths, NO! They aren't, most of them are either sociopaths or just normal gang members, you can see it in their traits.

Exactly. Most of these Saints Row gamers don't know jack about psychology. They probably "study" psychology using Hollywood.

Yeah that's pretty obvious, also that video's phenomenal, was an eye opener.

[aidel1011]

Originally posted by Lughzi:

You said it, the difference between an sociopath and a psychopath, is that the sociopath still feels human emotions even if sometimes they exhibit far too little, but those emotions are easily triggered by family and/or friends, take the Boss for example, he feels emotions towards his friends and his gang, now Julius who is a psychopath, feels nothing towards them they are like his means to an end, he cares too little but has the street smarts and a fake persona to bury that trait, but note that Julius always attacked first, he was power hungry, he said he did it for the greater good yet everything went south, all the things he said that were still happening were due to him and yet he refuses to atone for it, if he said to his gang that they weren't gonna push drugs they would listen to him, if he said for them not to kill innocent people they wouldn't do it, all of this could've been avoided if Julius had said the word, and the funny thing is he actually encouraged this behaviour, saying ♥♥♥♥ like if they representing kill them, do anything that gets us respect and word on the streets, basically saying go ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ as long as at the end of the day, you get the respect we need. Julius truly is a bigger prick and hypocrite than anyone i have ever seen, even stole Benjamin King's monologue lmao.

Julius may still have felt emotions towards others, but those emotions he feels are only a few such as pure frustration and depression.

[Lughzi]

Originally posted by aidelrahman2001 titan.tf:

Originally posted by Lughzi:

You said it, the difference between an sociopath and a psychopath, is that the sociopath still feels human emotions even if sometimes they exhibit far too little, but those emotions are easily triggered by family and/or friends, take the Boss for example, he feels emotions towards his friends and his gang, now Julius who is a psychopath, feels nothing towards them they are like his means to an end, he cares too little but has the street smarts and a fake persona to bury that trait, but note that Julius always attacked first, he was power hungry, he said he did it for the greater good yet everything went south, all the things he said that were still happening were due to him and yet he refuses to atone for it, if he said to his gang that they weren't gonna push drugs they would listen to him, if he said for them not to kill innocent people they wouldn't do it, all of this could've been avoided if Julius had said the word, and the funny thing is he actually encouraged this behaviour, saying ♥♥♥♥ like if they representing kill them, do anything that gets us respect and word on the streets, basically saying go ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ as long as at the end of the day, you get the respect we need. Julius truly is a bigger prick and hypocrite than anyone i have ever seen, even stole Benjamin King's monologue lmao.

Julius may still have felt emotions towards others, but those emotions he feels are only a few such as pure frustration and depression.

Yep, exactly, forgot to state that.

[Zeetarb]

I think Julius still holds onto the rationalisation that he is doing it for the greater good, and the existance of people like the playa force him to face the lie of that. Especially by the time he's seeing the rise of the playa, Gat and Dex and the fall of Troy and Lin, and that the playa at least by the end of the first game is recognised as a leader too; and his abduction shows he isn't needed either.