I want to like it but it's way too grindy

[fnorgby]

I never had this problem with the first game. I just spent an hour completely unable to earn enough money to hire a better squad. I beat level 100 pretty easily, but then got stuck with 400 to 600 gp, hiring about 200 gp and not earning 200gp back.

I don't have a reason to play this version. it's more interesting and has more things going on in it, but yeah. Value proposition isn't there for me.

[Chris.T]

seems more like problems upstairs in your brain than the game mate. Its not that hard.

[fnorgby]

Sure, being intentionally offensive is one way to go. Yep. That was the option that you chose to go with.

[Handoiron]

Start your runs at level 1, not at max level. You'll get tons of gold for all the easy levels from 1 to your max that you can use to upgrade after your run ends and should have waaay more than enough gold to hire a new team.

Starting runs at max level and wondering why you have no gold to spend is like finishing running a marathon and then continuing to run and wondering why you don't feel rested.

[fnorgby]

That's exactly what I meant by "grindy". Playing the same levels over and over.

I never had to do that in the first game. There were times when I overspent on upgrades and had to grind money back up, but as long as I wasn't buying upgrades, I never had a long stretch where going on a run *lost* me money. When I tried this version, I spent a few hours unable to escape the grind.

Right at the beginning of the game, relatively speaking, having to spend hours doing the same things over and over again just doesn't give me the experience I'm looking for. Your mileage may vary.

If I get the itch again, I'll reinstall the first game.

[Handoiron]

What you're doing is pretty much the same as if you'd play a basketball game and claim it has too much basketball.

Soda Dungeon is an idle grinder game. You chain idle dungeon runs to build resources in order to purchase upgrades in order to chain idle dungeon runs further.

Obviously, as you've proven, if you try to play it as just a max level push progression game, you fail to progress.

Soda Dungeon 1 was the same thing. It just wasn't designed as well for the purpose so it was easy to quickly get to the point of overwhelming stats so your dungeon runs only stopped when you stopped them.

Soda Dungeon 2 has way more game play simply because it was designed with the shortcomings of the first game in mind in order to prolong the process of progressing to endless runs.

If you don't enjoy the game play of an idle grind game you're probably better off spending your time on a game you do enjoy.

[fnorgby]

Thank you for the lecture, professor.

[Handoiron]

Originally posted by fnorgby:

Thank you for the lecture, professor.

You're welcome.

I'm happy I could address your lack of understanding and hopefully help bring a resolution to your feeling of disappointment with the basic fundamentals of the game's design.

[fnorgby]

The important thing is that you found a way to feel superior to someone who expressed an opinion. I'm happy to have provided you with the opportunity.

[Handoiron]

In no way do I "feel superior" for trying to help someone understand the basics of the game.

When I started playing the game, I had knowledge deficiencies as well. I asked questions and some very helpful people answered them. I truly enjoy paying that forward, even in this thread with the antagonistic responses I've gotten while doing my best to remain as polite as possible.

[kevinshow]

you can actually increase very well though the levels just with Soda Junkies, which cost 0 to hire.

and then when you get to the bosses that you can't defeat, then you might use your other team members.

of course, this is only if you are having trouble making gold. once you get the routine down, use your preferred team members so that they level up and get their additional skill bonuses.

[kevinshow]

Originally posted by fnorgby:

That's exactly what I meant by "grindy". Playing the same levels over and over.

I never had to do that in the first game.

you are correct that in the first game, you could start off from level 100, then 200, then 300, etc whenever you warped to a new dimension.

but this sequel chose to do away with that method of progression.

It's really not so bad to get back to where you were, starting from level 1. However, if you don't like the changed dynamics, then it certainly can make the game seem unfun. Hopefully you'll come back to it one day and give it a try again.

[Shades]

You had to grind in the first game too, you just apparently don't remember doing it. But if you like the first game better there's nothing stopping you from going back to it. Or you can just hang out here and seethe harder.

[[SG] Shingo-_-Yabuki]

Originally posted by Handoiron:

In no way do I "feel superior" for trying to help someone understand the basics of the game.

When I started playing the game, I had knowledge deficiencies as well. I asked questions and some very helpful people answered them. I truly enjoy paying that forward, even in this thread with the antagonistic responses I've gotten while doing my best to remain as polite as possible.