Who could kill the god-emperor?

[Malaficus Shaikan]

The more i read about the god-emperor the more i hate this deus ex machina.
Even if i dismiss the emperor's power as propaganda the simple fact that he is a human(born and raised) that is inmortal(even the old one's only lived very long and argueable the best psyker in the universe.
Despite human pskyers are both rare and on a whole not as strong as there eldar or chaos counter part's.

I wanted(for my own amusment) have a debate:
Who could succesfull kill the emperor.
We know horus got close because(depending on who you ask) the emperor either let him or all four chaos gods buffed horus to even more insane levels then the emperor.

I think a well fed ctan could.
Meaby an ork warboss if all the orks unifed/believe in him(because any warboss who can unify the entire ork race is definitly powerfull)
The tyranids* if they ever show up in full force.

On an induvitual level the only person i can see to be able to kill the deus ex machina of humankind is a ctan or the tyranids*.

*Because the tyranids are a hivemind(without the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥t single leader rules over all crap) spieces they count as a single entity.

Note:
I am not asking what army can beat the god emperor of mankind i am asking who would be powerfull, cunning and deadly enought to be able to kill the god-emperor of humankind the moment he loses his plot armors and weapons?

[Segovax]

How the hell is he a gary stu? He's stuck in a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Warp-Blocking EZ Chair and has even less mobility and ability to communicate than Steven Hawking.

edit:

He's not even a character per-se, he's a plot device as much as the C'tan and Chaos Gods are. He literally cannot be a gary stu.

[Liquidus Bear]

mary sue I belive is the standard term

[Commisar Jon Fuklaw]

Matt Ward. That is your answer for who could kill the Emprah.

[Liquidus Bear]

Jeanstealer eredeti hozzászólása:

Matt Ward. That is your answer for who could kill the Emprah.

never speak his name!



he hears all......

[Commisar Jon Fuklaw]

HerrComrade eredeti hozzászólása:

How the hell is he a gary stu? He's stuck in a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Warp-Blocking EZ Chair and has even less mobility and ability to communicate than Steven Hawking.

edit:

He's not even a character per-se, he's a plot device as much as the C'tan and Chaos Gods are. He literally cannot be a gary stu.

WRONG! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcYrTCGKyrU (I am aware that the Adeptus Mechanicus is actually too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid to strap a text to speech device to the Emprah.)

[Malaficus Shaikan]

HerrComrade eredeti hozzászólása:

How the hell is he a gary stu? He's stuck in a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Warp-Blocking EZ Chair and has even less mobility and ability to communicate than Steven Hawking.

edit:

He's not even a character per-se, he's a plot device as much as the C'tan and Chaos Gods are. He literally cannot be a gary stu.

Before the golden throne he was stronger then the chaos gods, succesed at everything he did.
Manage to conquer most of the galaxie.
The horus heresy was the plot device to prevent him from simply winning by existing.

Unlike the chaos gods who are stuck in the warp and depended on there food.
Unlike the C'tan who are energie vampire and need eat.
Neither are human.
The tyranids are basicly one big very smart animal who devourse galaxie.
It has near infinity numbers.
Tho even considering an indivual it is still limeted by the fact it is a galaxie big multi bodied animal.

Has he ever been shown any weaknesses?
Other then being an idiot?

komrad charbles eredeti hozzászólása:

mary sue I belive is the standard term

Gary sue is the male version.

[Liquidus Bear]

Malaficus Shaikan eredeti hozzászólása:

komrad charbles eredeti hozzászólása:

mary sue I belive is the standard term

Gary sue is the male version.

huh, well thats good to know.




The internet lied to me

[Hydremajor117]

then again thats a bit of a stupid question if some theories about the Warp Gods actually being representations of all living creature's psyches happens to be true

Plus there's strong hints pointing towards the fact that other races might be worshiping chaos gods without even realising it

First obvious contenders would be the eldars

I mean putting aside the whole part where Khorne and Khaine are litteraly put apart by two letters

I mean putting aside the fact that Khaine's avatar looks an awful lot like a blood letter (wich are Khorne demons)

I mean putting aside the complete and utter hate they have for Slaneesh, just like Khorne don't like him none

I MEAN PUTTING ASIDE THE WHOLE CULT OF WAR THING GOING ON WITH BLOOD AND ALL


OR the guy at game's workshop just wanted to use the "Four horsemen of the apocalypse" imagery with thoses four gods of chaos and thats the long and short of it

But one thing IS certain, IF the emperor DOES die, methinks it'll mark the "end" of the storyline for warhammer 40k.

I mean the guy is THE most reknowned symbol of the 40k era....

[Liquidus Bear]

And that is why warhammer 40k i a setting and not a story, its about YOUR dudes.

[Malaficus Shaikan]

komrad charbles eredeti hozzászólása:

And that is why warhammer 40k i a setting and not a story, its about YOUR dudes.

And it is a very good setting.
I love to hate the dark eldar.(they are seriously sickening)
I love the craftworld eldar.(remind me of myself)
I love that humans are as ignorant and zealos in 40k as they are in real life.
I love the orks are basicly hooligians.
I love the tau for being the naive newcommer.(there basicly the federation from star trek from a klingion point of view :D)
I love how the hive mind doesnt have a single being ruling/enslaving the tyranids but the tyranids is a true hive mind where everyone is part of the whole.
I love the whole chaos corrupting part.
Chaos space marines are a bit boring but chaos itself is very well done.
I love how the necrontyr desperation made them make a deal with the devil.
I hate the old one's plot device.

The thing that makes me love 40k is that everyone looks after there own.
No good alliance vs evil empire.
No uberpower bad guy who is the source of all evil.
No good god that doesnt do ♥♥♥♥.

The old once's and the emperor kinda dont belong in the setting because they are simply powerfull and benevolent.
Chaos need to feed.
C'tan need to feed.
Tyranids need to feed.
The old once's are a race of super psykers.....wait meaby the emperor is a survived old one?

[darth.crevette]

About the Void Dragon thing; with the current fluff, and depending on when this happened, couldn't it just have been a shard?

And to answer the main question, the Beast almost did it.

[Meep]

HERESY EVERYWHERE

BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM

[Segovax]

Malaficus Shaikan eredeti hozzászólása:

HerrComrade eredeti hozzászólása:

How the hell is he a gary stu? He's stuck in a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Warp-Blocking EZ Chair and has even less mobility and ability to communicate than Steven Hawking.

edit:

He's not even a character per-se, he's a plot device as much as the C'tan and Chaos Gods are. He literally cannot be a gary stu.

Before the golden throne he was stronger then the chaos gods, succesed at everything he did.
Manage to conquer most of the galaxie.
The horus heresy was the plot device to prevent him from simply winning by existing.

Unlike the chaos gods who are stuck in the warp and depended on there food.
Unlike the C'tan who are energie vampire and need eat.
Neither are human.
The tyranids are basicly one big very smart animal who devourse galaxie.
It has near infinity numbers.
Tho even considering an indivual it is still limeted by the fact it is a galaxie big multi bodied animal.

Has he ever been shown any weaknesses?
Other then being an idiot?

komrad charbles eredeti hozzászólása:

mary sue I belive is the standard term

Gary sue is the male version.

And yet he was permanently crippled, left near death and stuck on life support eating a vast swarm of souls to keep the lights on. He is a plot device. Yes, he's ultra-powerful, so what? Even if you look at him as a character he still doesn't qualify as a mary sue ("gary stu" for those people who hate the idea that there's a dominant femenine term in the english language). He's the immortal god-emperor of mankind who was born of all the greatest psyker power humankind had to offer at the time, not some dude off the street who discovers he has magic powers and can do anything with the wave of a magic wand.

Even if you don't want to accept that term, the only other qualifications as a character would be impossibly perfect and totally unrealistic. He can't be impossibly perfect because he's all ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up, and we're talking 40k so "realistic" is anathema.

He can be a character or plot device you hate, I am not going to try to argue you out of an opinion, but he's neither a deus-ex-machina (except in the literal sense, har) or a mary sue.

[Clawz n Jawz]

All this heresy, little time to purge... God-Emporer beesech unto me your blessing and may I rid this world of these traitors, xenos and heretics alike.

[Neckstabba]

fawhxldawg eredeti hozzászólása:

All this heresy, little time to purge... God-Emporer beesech unto me your blessing and may I rid this world of these traitors, xenos and heretics alike.

Heresy grows from idleness.... Purge the xeno scum !