Who could kill the god-emperor?

[Malaficus Shaikan]

The more i read about the god-emperor the more i hate this deus ex machina.
Even if i dismiss the emperor's power as propaganda the simple fact that he is a human(born and raised) that is inmortal(even the old one's only lived very long and argueable the best psyker in the universe.
Despite human pskyers are both rare and on a whole not as strong as there eldar or chaos counter part's.

I wanted(for my own amusment) have a debate:
Who could succesfull kill the emperor.
We know horus got close because(depending on who you ask) the emperor either let him or all four chaos gods buffed horus to even more insane levels then the emperor.

I think a well fed ctan could.
Meaby an ork warboss if all the orks unifed/believe in him(because any warboss who can unify the entire ork race is definitly powerfull)
The tyranids* if they ever show up in full force.

On an induvitual level the only person i can see to be able to kill the deus ex machina of humankind is a ctan or the tyranids*.

*Because the tyranids are a hivemind(without the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥t single leader rules over all crap) spieces they count as a single entity.

Note:
I am not asking what army can beat the god emperor of mankind i am asking who would be powerfull, cunning and deadly enought to be able to kill the god-emperor of humankind the moment he loses his plot armors and weapons?

[76561198200638999]

The Emprah isn't really immortal,not even the Chaos gods are. They will die as well when they run out of warp food (in other words,when either the Nids or the Crons kill everyone).

Do you mean the God-Emperor in the flesh,when he still was fully alive or the "modern" one who is sitting on the (failing and unrepairable) Golden Throne? The former is like a super primarch with huge psychic power,while the latter is a corpse who can hardly be called alive,but who due to the mass worship of him for thousands of years is a Chaos god in the making. He already has his Greater Daemons (Battle Sisters Living Saints).

[Toby Larone]

If i'm correct he isn't human but a rincarnation of a group of human shamans. Also anybody can kill the emps mortal body in 40k the question then is what happens to his soul

[Malaficus Shaikan]

Originally posted by Uncle Skull:

The Emprah isn't really immortal,not even the Chaos gods are. They will die as well when they run out of warp food (in other words,when either the Nids or the Crons kill everyone).

Do you mean the God-Emperor in the flesh,when he still was fully alive or the "modern" one who is sitting on the (failing and unrepairable) Golden Throne? The former is like a super primarch with huge psychic power,while the latter is a corpse who can hardly be called alive,but who due to the mass worship of him for thousands of years is a Chaos god in the making. He already has his Greater Daemons (Battle Sisters Living Saints).

Both.

Originally posted by Leeroy returns:

If i'm correct he isn't human but a rincarnation of a group of human shamans. Also anybody can kill the emps mortal body in 40k the question then is what happens to his soul

Really?
Because i dont seem him dieing to lasgun misfire.

That also brings me to my frustration:
4000 human shamans can make an single person stronger then then all chaos gods?
Including the one that sucked millions of eldar souls?
A race of psykers?
She who thirsts is weaker now because eldar are rare now and none eldar dont give the same powerboost.

[Toby Larone]

I think one of the big advanteges the emps had against the other gods is having a secure connection to the mortal plane,whlie they had to work with proxies

[76109108007942031]

At this point, I think anyone who can reach him can kill him.

[Toby Larone]

if you get past the castodes sure

[Michael Lemmons]

And that's a helluva big "if".

[My What]

Originally posted by Malaficus Shaikan:

Originally posted by Uncle Skull:

The Emprah isn't really immortal,not even the Chaos gods are. They will die as well when they run out of warp food (in other words,when either the Nids or the Crons kill everyone).

Do you mean the God-Emperor in the flesh,when he still was fully alive or the "modern" one who is sitting on the (failing and unrepairable) Golden Throne? The former is like a super primarch with huge psychic power,while the latter is a corpse who can hardly be called alive,but who due to the mass worship of him for thousands of years is a Chaos god in the making. He already has his Greater Daemons (Battle Sisters Living Saints).

Both.

Originally posted by Leeroy returns:

If i'm correct he isn't human but a rincarnation of a group of human shamans. Also anybody can kill the emps mortal body in 40k the question then is what happens to his soul

Really?
Because i dont seem him dieing to lasgun misfire.

That also brings me to my frustration:
4000 human shamans can make an single person stronger then then all chaos gods?
Including the one that sucked millions of eldar souls?
A race of psykers?
She who thirsts is weaker now because eldar are rare now and none eldar dont give the same powerboost.

Part of that is that he's been being fed the souls of psykers for 10,000 years from all imperial worlds paying their tithe, so his pyschic power has been steadily growing since then, not to mention the countless souls worshipping him, and thereotically, combining with the gestalt psychic collectiveness of the Orks boosting him in one way or another, ups him a few notches too, Emps is continually being placed closer and closer to the power of an actual Chaos God, not to mention his power is anathema to them. He isn't immortal, both body and soul, it'll just take an extreme amount of effort to destroy his soul, and I don't think any normal daemon or chaos aligned psyker would be able to do it because his power is anathema to them, Eldar definetly do not want to do that since despite their numerous conflicts, the Imperium is their buffer from everyone else

[Brinklight]

The Emperor literaly holds off all 4 Chaos gods at once keeping the Imperium and Terra from getting consumed by them. That and he has a giant army of custodes gaurding him, so good luck!

[Jimmi Stixx]

Could use the Celestial Orrery and you would never even have to go to Terra.

[Shellbie]

Originally posted by Uncle Skull:

The Emprah isn't really immortal,not even the Chaos gods are. They will die as well when they run out of warp food (in other words,when either the Nids or the Crons kill everyone).

Do you mean the God-Emperor in the flesh,when he still was fully alive or the "modern" one who is sitting on the (failing and unrepairable) Golden Throne? The former is like a super primarch with huge psychic power,while the latter is a corpse who can hardly be called alive,but who due to the mass worship of him for thousands of years is a Chaos god in the making. He already has his Greater Daemons (Battle Sisters Living Saints).

How dare you!

[Neckstabba]

Well, he prolly was the one who trapped the Void Dragon C'tan under the Mars, so yeah. The only really C'tan that could prolly match him would be the Nightbringer with his weapon (which is lost). C'tan are like gods - but only in the mortal realm, they are very weak vs warp based stuff, which the Emperor can use plenty of. Also the Emperor LET Horus pretty much attack him, he even let him kill Sanguinius. After he got wounded, the Emperor (who was by now really badly damaged) pretty much one-hitted the full-powered Horus and - deleted - his soul completely !

Like Leeroy returns said, his big advantage is that hes PRESENT in the mortal realm, while having all this power.

I think hes even more powerful than Tzeench and Slaneesh, due to his nature and his followers. Nurgle could be pretty heavy, cuz hes the oldest of em and pretty much fed itself with the countless dead. Khorne 'could' be stronger than the Emperor, because theres simply so much fighting and stuff going on, even when the Emperor itself kills someone, that should power up Khorne... so i guess thats the hardest part :I.

But tbh, i think that the Chaos Gods would rather unite and go 4v1 rather then getting wiped out 1 by 1.

But the question still remains with the C'tan whos trapped on Mars, IF the Emperor did that, why didnt he kill the Void Dragon? Or atleast destroy him into Shards? I guess he couldnt kill it (be it because they were equal strong, or simple because of the fact that C'tan are the gods of the material realm?) so he trapped him there. So he MUST have been stronger than it, to be even able to trap it, BUT not strong enough to rek it.

Just my 2 cents

[Malaficus Shaikan]

Originally posted by iL.AndyMage:

Well, he prolly was the one who trapped the Void Dragon C'tan under the Mars, so yeah. The only really C'tan that could prolly match him would be the Nightbringer with his weapon (which is lost). C'tan are like gods - but only in the mortal realm, they are very weak vs warp based stuff, which the Emperor can use plenty of. Also the Emperor LET Horus pretty much attack him, he even let him kill Sanguinius. After he got wounded, the Emperor (who was by now really badly damaged) pretty much one-hitted the full-powered Horus and - deleted - his soul completely !

Like Leeroy returns said, his big advantage is that hes PRESENT in the mortal realm, while having all this power.

I think hes even more powerful than Tzeench and Slaneesh, due to his nature and his followers. Nurgle could be pretty heavy, cuz hes the oldest of em and pretty much fed itself with the countless dead. Khorne 'could' be stronger than the Emperor, because theres simply so much fighting and stuff going on, even when the Emperor itself kills someone, that should power up Khorne... so i guess thats the hardest part :I.

But tbh, i think that the Chaos Gods would rather unite and go 4v1 rather then getting wiped out 1 by 1.

But the question still remains with the C'tan whos trapped on Mars, IF the Emperor did that, why didnt he kill the Void Dragon? Or atleast destroy him into Shards? I guess he couldnt kill it (be it because they were equal strong, or simple because of the fact that C'tan are the gods of the material realm?) so he trapped him there. So he MUST have been stronger than it, to be even able to trap it, BUT not strong enough to rek it.

Just my 2 cents

A C'tan power depends on how well fed it is.
The void dragon was probley weakend from the necrons betrayel.

This however is the exact reason i dont like the emperor.
He is basicly a gary sue.
The being all humans could become?
Excuees me while i laught at human ego.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

My personal point of view is that if the emperor was to die he would become the warp god humanity believe he is.
But it would not be him.
His personality would change to what his people believe he is like.
A scary thought for him i recon.
Enough power to fight chaos but becoming the very thing he hate's in the progress.

I like to pretend his pre-golden throne days as history is written by the winners.
And reality was alot more messy.

[76561198200638999]

Originally posted by Paladin Katherine:

How dare you!

*gulp*

[aZavar.Kul]

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