Is Ultimate Apocalypse multiplayer broken?

[Wolffe]

My friends & I never had a problem playing UA together in years past. Now in 2020 none of us can see each others games. With my router & firewalls down, I don't see any joinable games, nor can my friends see my created game. We are all running the same versions of Soulstorm (Steam) & UA.

I have no idea why SEGA removed the direct-ip multiplayer component that was present in DoW. It would be a simple fix that did not rely on 3rd party software.

[Voltixi]

Do a reinstall. I had this happen yesterday, and reinstalling everything on a fresh installation of Soulstorm fixed my issue.

[Wolffe]

Originally posted by The Crinkled Bottle:

Do a reinstall. I had this happen yesterday, and reinstalling everything on a fresh installation of Soulstorm fixed my issue.

No change.

[Carter]

I had the same problem, but I found a program with russian servers where you installit with your friends and still can play. https://dowonline.ru/en/#how-to-play

[rusty_dragon]

Originally posted by Carter Operator:

I had the same problem, but I found a program with russian servers where you installit with your friends and still can play. https://dowonline.ru/en/#how-to-play

You don't need to install shady programs to play LAN.
You can downgrade to LAN support yourself and use LAN service of your choice(tungle/hamachi/FreeLAN).

[Mayne boi]

The Apoc league discord use the russian launcher at it works fine!

[Wolffe]

Found out the problem: needed to make sure all players used the mod manager and had LAA setting on.

[rusty_dragon]

Originally posted by john_b:

Found out the problem: needed to make sure all players used the mod manager and had LAA setting on.

Congrats.

[YMFTCTB]

Originally posted by rusty_dragon:

Originally posted by Carter Operator:

I had the same problem, but I found a program with russian servers where you installit with your friends and still can play. https://dowonline.ru/en/#how-to-play

You don't need to install shady programs to play LAN.
You can downgrade to LAN support yourself and use LAN service of your choice(tungle/hamachi/FreeLAN).

its not shady, its just another server that works better than the steam one

[rusty_dragon]

Originally posted by ReaperBoy909:

Originally posted by rusty_dragon:

You don't need to install shady programs to play LAN.
You can downgrade to LAN support yourself and use LAN service of your choice(tungle/hamachi/FreeLAN).

its not shady, its just another server that works better than the steam one

it is shady and it works worse that steam one.

[YMFTCTB]

Originally posted by rusty_dragon:

Originally posted by ReaperBoy909:

its not shady, its just another server that works better than the steam one

it is shady and it works worse that steam one.

from personal experience, it works FAR better than the steam one, and how is it shady? all youve done is claim its shady but what makes it so shady?

[rusty_dragon]

Originally posted by ReaperBoy909:

Originally posted by rusty_dragon:

it is shady and it works worse that steam one.

from personal experience, it works FAR better than the steam one, and how is it shady? all youve done is claim its shady but what makes it so shady?

You keep telling it works better, but give no examples.
It is shady because it is not official, neither it is made by some person known by community.
It's a completely unknown project run by unknown people. Obviously it's shady. That's common sense of security on internet. To not run non-trusted software.

[YMFTCTB]

Originally posted by rusty_dragon:

Originally posted by ReaperBoy909:

from personal experience, it works FAR better than the steam one, and how is it shady? all youve done is claim its shady but what makes it so shady?

You keep telling it works better, but give no examples.
It is shady because it is not official, neither it is made by some person known by community.
It's a completely unknown project run by unknown people.

It gives nothing over using disk version. Why should anyone use it then?

sooo anything that isnt official is shady? i have an anti virus but the government hasnt said its part of them, that mean its 'shady'? and youre the one arguing with no evidence, why provide evidence to disprove an argument with no evidence? and most things online not made by big companies are run by unknown people. is the ultimate apocalypse mod also shady? i dont know the identity of its creator irl?

[rusty_dragon]

Originally posted by ReaperBoy909:

Originally posted by rusty_dragon:

You keep telling it works better, but give no examples.
It is shady because it is not official, neither it is made by some person known by community.
It's a completely unknown project run by unknown people.

It gives nothing over using disk version. Why should anyone use it then?

sooo anything that isnt official is shady? i have an anti virus but the government hasnt said its part of them, that mean its 'shady'? and youre the one arguing with no evidence, why provide evidence to disprove an argument with no evidence? and most things online not made by big companies are run by unknown people. is the ultimate apocalypse mod also shady? i dont know the identity of its creator irl?

Re-read again. It's made by totally unknown group of people.
Multiplayer mods like this are typically run by community. Look at mods for C&C multiplayer, for example.

Ultimate Apocalypse mod is not shady, cause it's singleplayer.

Why use some untrusted mod, if you can have same experience without it? It's totally unnecessary software.

[YMFTCTB]

Originally posted by rusty_dragon:

Originally posted by ReaperBoy909:

sooo anything that isnt official is shady? i have an anti virus but the government hasnt said its part of them, that mean its 'shady'? and youre the one arguing with no evidence, why provide evidence to disprove an argument with no evidence? and most things online not made by big companies are run by unknown people. is the ultimate apocalypse mod also shady? i dont know the identity of its creator irl?

Re-read again. It's made by totally unknown group of people.
Multiplayer mods like this are typically run by community. Look at mods for C&C multiplayer, for example.

Ultimate Apocalypse mod is not shady, cause it's singleplayer.

Why use some untrusted mod, if you can have same experience without it? It's totally unnecessary software.

first point, true. cant argue there
second, UA has multiplayer so no. in fact it removes the campaign unlike other mods like TW so its less single player than other mods.
third point, when i first tried to play multiplayer on DoW i couldnt join any lobbys. i soon found out that was because steam sucks and has 'ghost servers' which are unjoinable and dont dissapear. while DoW online isnt necessary it certainly helps

[rusty_dragon]

Originally posted by ReaperBoy909:

Originally posted by rusty_dragon:

Re-read again. It's made by totally unknown group of people.
Multiplayer mods like this are typically run by community. Look at mods for C&C multiplayer, for example.

Ultimate Apocalypse mod is not shady, cause it's singleplayer.

Why use some untrusted mod, if you can have same experience without it? It's totally unnecessary software.

first point, true. cant argue there
second, UA has multiplayer so no. in fact it removes the campaign unlike other mods like TW so its less single player than other mods.
third point, when i first tried to play multiplayer on DoW i couldnt join any lobbys. i soon found out that was because steam sucks and has 'ghost servers' which are unjoinable and dont dissapear. while DoW online isnt necessary it certainly helps

UA rely on DOW multiplayer code.
DoW multiplayer problems are not steam related. It's a problem of maintenance of official lobby servers by SEGA/Relic.

You can have same experience by downgrading to disk version with LAN support and use VPN software of your choice: hamachi, game ranger, FreeLAN, etc. There are zero reason to use some additional software/services like dowonline.ru for it.