Lethal Script DLC Question (SPOILERS)

[Sepia_Knight]

I spent while trying to work out who had the real gun. The answers I initially gave were Logan -> Andy and then AD -> Logan -> Andy, but, after being told that was incorrect, I eventually tried AD -> Andy -> Logan -> Andy, as it did seem possible with the movements and it turned out this was the correct answer.

However, this does seem very odd to me. Andy still had a gun on him after he put one into the left locker, as he shows it to Leonard. The only locker he visits after that is the right locker (locker 3), which is presumably where he puts the fake gun that he showed Leonard. So why does Andy have two guns at the start and how could the viewer know which one was given to him by the AD?

It would seem far more straightforward to me for Logan to have had the gun from the start (possibly given to him by the AD) rather than for Andy to have two.

Edit: Dylan corrected to Logan.

[taggedjc]

AD had given the guns to Andy, for Andy to stow in the locker room. That allowed Logan to collect the gun (not Dylan) before being held up by Dylan (who took the fake gun from Andy's locker earlier), who made Logan drop the real gun to the floor and kick it away. Then, Andy picked up the real gun.

Sequence of events:

AD gives Andy the guns before the time starts.

3:16 Andy stows the real gun in the first locker.

9:55 Director and AD talk about how AD forgot to give John his prop gun

10:28 Bill takes Andy's fake gun from the second locker, to eventually get it to John.

10:49 Logan takes the real gun from the first locker.

Now, AD gets Logan to drop the real gun and kick it away and tells Andy to use that one instead of the one he was originally going to use (which is now going to be used by John).

[Sepia_Knight]

Thanks for the correction, taggedjc. I did mean Logan where I had written Dylan.

Thank you also for the explanation. I'm still confused, however:

Why would the AD not ensure Andy and Logan each have one gun before the filming started? A viewer of the live show watching the locker room camera could see Andy putting a gun into the left locker and further that it is this same gun that is collected later on by Logan, which does not make sense in the context of the show. It would be easier for viewers to notice this than the player as they have the benefit of video.

[coder]

I got a little confused on ths post so I'm editing it. Essentially I hadn't completed question #2 yet so I had thought they changed the script.

I do have an issue with question #2 which gives you question #3, but I suppose it doesn't matter for this subject -- I was guessing the chips moved with May > John > Dylan > Logan > Dylan > May, but it's not right because for some reason Dylan thinks Logan has a chip and the answer only provides one column with five rows, never giving him a chance, leaving me not understanding why Dylan is asking Logan for anything.

Also problematic is the phrasing "Since the deal" instead of like "Just before the deal" or "After the events" if they mean at the start of the current day and not since the cop who is the sister of the Director got killed.. It's actually a really interesting script and conjures up all kinds of corporate espionage news stories, but they have to get this answer cleared up so players can get to the question you're asking about. Didn't mean to hijack this thread for soapbox.

[Sepia_Knight]

coder,

The question regarding chips asks about who had *both* chips. Logan only had one chip - never both. That answer makes complete sense. I think "since the deal" is the correct phrasing.

I still don't understand why Logan received his gun from Andy (via the locker) while the show was running, though.

[coder]

Ahhh yes thank you Sepia_Knight that does make sense can't believe I didn't get that. When I was getting it wrong, I started to read into many of the words in different ways, and I think that's where I went astray.

Regarding the gun,I'm just starting this but I thought the AD said he forgot to give him his gun and reorganizing that eventually made it so he had to go and get it from somewhere, so he was told to get it from the locker. Or maybe that was John and the issues cascaded down to Logan. Maybe John in the original script would have gotten a gun another way had John had his originally? I have to work this out...

[macho]

The issue with the answer is that one of the characters who "apparently" had the gun is not seen in the scene with the gun, it is said that he gave it to him prior to the event.
The correct answer I tried out of frustration at least 10 times should be Andy -> Logan -> Andy. Who gives a FAK about what happened prior to the event. Maybe add "shopkeeper" to the list

[Y8S8]

Originally posted by Sepia_Knight:

I still don't understand why Logan received his gun from Andy (via the locker) while the show was running, though.

Originally posted by coder:

Regarding the gun,I'm just starting this but I thought the AD said he forgot to give him his gun and reorganizing that eventually made it so he had to go and get it from somewhere, so he was told to get it from the locker. Or maybe that was John and the issues cascaded down to Logan. Maybe John in the original script would have gotten a gun another way had John had his originally? I have to work this out...

Old thread, but what you're missing is how Logan deposits his prop gun in the left locker right at the start, it's the same gun-fumbling sounds. So all the characters except John do start off with their guns, with Andy handed the real gun. What Andy was doing when he went offscript to the left locker was to switch the real gun with Logan's prop, so he can show it off later following the script.

The implications of this is quite sinister. This sequence of events is too coincidental like the main game's scenarios to be real, particularly with Andy switching the guns so the only possibility is that Andy is an accomplice to the AD's plan. There is Indeed a line about AD deliberately casting a complete newbie for Andy's role, which meant that he could cast anyone willing to pull the trigger even if they weren't an actor. With Andy being the plant, there is no chance of the real gun being accidentally discovered or fired before the last scene.

Furthermore, the scene of Andy demonstrating the prop gun in the changing room can be used as evidence for him to feign innocence, provided that no one noticed that he switched the guns. The AD just has to lie that he gave Logan the real gun.