Cheating too obvious now- 1.400.000.000 score on lvl 1.4 is rediculous

[high_credo]

so it´s pretty clear now ,there are cheaters.
After the first ones tried to make it feel like a great play there are now many of them and they give a ♥♥♥♥ about hiding there cheat.

Have a look at lvl 1.4 where player _Baiqi_ has an incredible score of maybe 3 times higher then in my eyes possible, But now there are the maximum cheaters like MTG who got a 1.4 Trillion score, which is 20000 times the score of _baiqi_ . I don´t even think this is a playscore, because, you would play one game running a year or more to get this score.

What´s your oppinion and is there a chance to get cheats out with this engine?

[Cinex]

That's a legitimate score. Endless mode is a whole different world.

[high_credo]

Originally posted by Cinex:

That's a legitimate score. Endless mode is a whole different world.

It cant be legitimate, because it´s a season score for that lvl in normal.
So you are maxed to lvl 20 turrets (25 with modifier whats not even usefull in endgame on that lvl).
You run out of resources for Gauss at a certain point, drowning dpm also.
I m not a noob in this game, and do the math.

[Cinex]

Ah, it's on normal... People are usually accusing people of cheating because of high scores in endless, so I respond pretty much automatically to those.
The leaderboard anticheat is very tight, so I suspect that some broken strat was discovered and shared in a closed circle.

[high_credo]

Originally posted by Cinex:

Ah, it's on normal... People are usually accusing people of cheating because of high scores in endless, so I respond pretty much automatically to those.
The leaderboard anticheat is very tight, so I suspect that some broken strat was discovered and shared in a closed circle.

Well endless is pretty easy to hack, there are several cheat engines look up here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhqPahI26zw

But the season games are replayed serverside so far it´s said.
That´s why I m pretty disappointed, not by developers, doing this real gem of a game.

It´s a pity cheaters destroy somehow the great work and fun of real players trying to compete.

[Cinex]

I am aware of cheating methods in this game. None of them can affect leaderboards.
After searching around a bit in the Discord server, I found out that these scores are possible thanks a strategy involving Firestorm and Venom's ultimate. The dev is aware of it and probably won't fix it until the next season.

[high_credo]

Originally posted by Cinex:

I am aware of cheating methods in this game. None of them can affect leaderboards.
After searching around a bit in the Discord server, I found out that these scores are possible thanks a strategy involving Firestorm and Venom's ultimate. The dev is aware of it and probably won't fix it until the next season.

Well the Unity engine is know to be curruptable, which is not really a problem in normal games, you do for yourself, it´s ok for me.
This game is not a tripple A product, thank god, and I love work devs do, and they should n ot be forced to spent time on corrupting leaderboards.

I know these daily scores leaderborads seem far more legit then the score i refered on season score in a normal game with a trillion score, like I said 20000 times higher then the second guy. It´s a rediculous score and obviously cheated, even it´s said to be replayed on server.

Anyway thx for kind and constructive canversation Cinex. Wish you and all who love this game the best.

[Cinex]

I just said they're not cheated...

[high_credo]

So it seems there is a cheat engine, at least for normal leaderborad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhqPahI26zw

I won´t be a prick using this to even try it out, but it was clear, when i saw some vids from 249 on bilibili for excample, that his towers on same lvl and lvlup do much more dmg.
Also in his vids there a strange jumps of mdps, e.g. form 3k to 22k without killing any ememy (in lvl6.1 replay).


Also i read about modifiers for daily quest, that read out the bonuses coming, thats why the same guys have ultimate score every single day in row after 2 hours.

Anyway if I`m really wrong with all that, then I would be glad to get explanation, not for fame just for getting a clue.

The best tower game ever it is anyway.

Have fun all

credo

[marcpchlor]

It's firestorm and venoms ultimate is achieving those crazy scores. They are legit scores, not cheated

[marcpchlor]

You must be very green

[high_credo]

Well firestorm is limited to 10 units in normal, also depends on mdps. Poison Towers are limited to lvl 20, and they can be upgraded only if you spent free places, which is in endgame not an option, if you are really hard limited on free spaces like in lvl 1.4.

Raising every waves hp on enemy there are limits on dpm you cant break anymore, and freezing/slowing is never getting to that point, that they stand still.

It might be a bug that I didn´t encoutered so far, but it´s said to be replayed on server to ensure it´s legit.

Well the answer said, firestorm and poison is doing it, is like saying a hammer is not a saw.

And please look up the score on lvl 1.4 so you understand it can´t be legit in normal way.

Thx hf Credo

[Cinex]

This is still going, huh? Okay.

Originally posted by high_credo:

Well firestorm is limited to 10 units in normal, also depends on mdps. Poison Towers are limited to lvl 20, and they can be upgraded only if you spent free places, which is in endgame not an option, if you are really hard limited on free spaces like in lvl 1.4.

You're missing the point here. Venom is not for damage - it is for the ultimate. Firestorm applies a debuff, which can be spread to other enemies using Venom's chain reaction. To keep the chain going, you need to have instant autowave on and play basically frame by frame.

Originally posted by high_credo:

Raising every waves hp on enemy there are limits on dpm you cant break anymore, and freezing/slowing is never getting to that point, that they stand still.

Wrong. There are a few abilities in the game that can deal a percentage of an enemy's health in damage. The one used in this strategy is the Gauss L10 ability, Overload. The damage it deals counts towards your MDPS, so you can scale your ability damage indefinitely.

This strategy requires a lot of micromanagement and luck (Venom's ult is based on chance). Having to do this to achieve the top scores is absolutely unhealthy, but it is still fair. Still, we can expect it to be patched in the next season.

[high_credo]

Ok, this is a serious disscussion now,

1. Venom is needed in any way to get high scores - true, but at a certain point a lvl 20(+) poisoning+fire+coldadd+ dmg is not dealing enough dmg compared to enemies health.

2. Jep Rockets can deal a lot dmg most to undmged enemies and groups. The problem is the ememies get faster every round and even blasts and cruhers cant hold them at a certain point.
3. Without Gauss it´s almost impossible to get a high score(depending on mines), useless to say you need it selfimproved and ultimate for mining, and frame by framing and best positioning, which is also VERY IMPORTANT. It wll run out of resources at a certain point.

We are talking here about maps with maybe 8-10 spaces; really limited in NORMAL(no Bonuses just global research to a decent point).

I don´t know how far you are in the game, but if you play a normal game like 1.4 it is hard to get scores over 1,5 million (look Leaderboard).
AND: IT takes 1 or more hour to play this in x3 speed and end game x1.

So here we get to the topic again: How can someone do a 20.000 times higher score without cheating??? Calculated its 833 Days played 24/7 in one lvl - in x3 speed - not frame by frame.
And by the way he is doing his daily challenge also first every day, and dont tell me, he is on 5 pc doing it at same time, like a chess master.

Cheers credo

[Cinex]

I give up.

[high_credo]

hehe, ok sry. That was not my intention. But I m clueless and so I give up too,

Originally posted by Cinex:

I give up.

hehe, ok sry. That was not my intention. But I m clueless and so I give up too,

I can´t proof it´s cheated so. Anyway thx for kind conversation.