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Trouble with Tutorial
1st up, this is fantastic - However...
I am now a whizz at building the engine block up to the installation of the Connecting Rod Cap Nuts - I have tried every interpretation of the tutorial txt I can think of when installing and torquing these correctly and still cannot move on through the tutorial or even get a hint as to what I have done wrong?
...is there an (unspecified) order for tightening?
...do I seat all the components before torquing or can each be completed separately?
...are the 15nm>35nm>50nm torque stages from undone or finger-tight or does it not matter?
I have already spent a happy hour fixing stuff and racing, but I would like to complete the tutorials before I make a serious stab at playing properly... any help gratefully received!
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Ol' Man Nipster Aug 8, 2019 @ 3:13am 
Many thanks for advice and link, Steph - tried your guide (v good!) but sadly I am still unable to move on past the connecting rod cap nuts tutorial stage...
Followed instructions to the letter, tried the fitting and tightening of these nuts singly, consecutively, in series, in reverse series and all together to the three torque stages specified, but to no avail.
Almost certain that it's something trivial and easy to fix that I have overlooked, botched or omitted, but for the life of me (and despite another couple of hours of fruitless experimentation) I cannot work out what it might be!
missingdigitgames  [developer] Aug 8, 2019 @ 9:48am 
Can you take a screenshot of the tutorial interface when you are getting stuck?
Ol' Man Nipster Aug 9, 2019 @ 9:07am 
Hi!
I can give it a go when I get in, but it is literally at the point of the tutorial where I am told to insert the pistons into the block, turn it over and bolt the Connecting Rod Cap Nuts down around the cam at 15, 35 and lastly 50 nm torque settings - I have done this every way I can find, there is no indication of what I have done wrong, yet the tutorial does not progress...?
By the by, this game is jaw-droppingly good - Bravo!
I hoped VR would manage to make the leap between frivolous gimmick to serious, practical application this time around, and at long last you guys are blazing that trail with a real, polished stand-out title.
Last edited by Ol' Man Nipster; Aug 9, 2019 @ 9:14am
Ol' Man Nipster Aug 20, 2019 @ 4:53am 
Hi
Taken screenshots - can't seem to post them here, tho...
How shall I get them to you, pls?

*Updated* - Sent to wrenchbugs@gmail address under same title
Last edited by Ol' Man Nipster; Aug 20, 2019 @ 5:28am
missingdigitgames  [developer] Aug 20, 2019 @ 7:43am 
I responded to your email - I ran through the tutorial without issue, I think you are just missing some small components on the pistons (wrist pin clips? bearings?). Use the 'Highlight Items' button to see everything related to that step.
ymbus Aug 24, 2019 @ 10:11am 
Hey there,

I have exactly the same problem. In my opinion, I installed everything correctly, but the tutorial will not end automatically. Also the tut does not tell me, what is wrong.
Can I give you some debug information or anything else?
Mesonic Sep 3, 2019 @ 1:59pm 
I am getting the same thing, I believe I have done everything correctly and there are no parts left over on the table/floor etc that I can see. All steps of the tutorial are showing complete apart from "Install pistons into engine". I have installed them, initially tightened them all with 'R' (torque wrench in hand set to 15), then torqued all to 15, 35 and then 50 but it doesn't accept it and complete the tutorial. Have also completely restarted it again but got the same thing the second time. Otherwise loving the game so far.
Ol' Man Nipster Sep 4, 2019 @ 6:47am 
Hi
Apologies for time lapse - real life is forever hectic...
No, there are zero parts left on my workbench, everything right up to the tutorial section I sent you screenshots of has produced the little completion sound (including the piston rings, the bearings and the little @ shaped clips that keep the bar inside the pistons) there is categorically nothing left on my workbench and still I cannot progress further in the tutorial - again, I have tried every combination of tightening the connecting rod cap nuts to no avail, not just once but multiple times using the torque settings mandated by the tutorial, I have used the 'highlight' function and it doesn't highlight anything, not even the connecting rod cap nuts.
Still enjoying the game, but having to watch U-Tube for areas covered by later tutorials I cannot start coz I can't finish the one I'm stuck on is slightly annoying!
Last edited by Ol' Man Nipster; Sep 4, 2019 @ 6:48am
knightowl5000 Sep 4, 2019 @ 9:10am 
the main game is neat but the tutorial is messed up it doesn't register after completing the engine build
EssBee Sep 4, 2019 @ 10:27am 
Heya guys. Quick question. Who's using VR and who's on desktop mode when this happens?

I don't have VR myself, but I'm going to jump in-game now, try it on desktop mode and do a few experiments, see if I can find anything that might help or if there's any kind of work around (the latter of which I'm pretty doubtful as the progression trigger is a big part of the tutorial). But anyway, I'll have a play and see what I can find. No promises though.
Last edited by EssBee; Sep 4, 2019 @ 10:30am
EssBee Sep 4, 2019 @ 12:07pm 
Ok, I started a new game and ran through the tutorials right from building the workbench right up to tightening the rod caps. It's definitely a little buggy. Once I'd tightened the rod caps I managed to complete the tutorial by pressing the 'complete tutorial' button,and then had to click it again and the tutorial did then actually finish and clear so as I could progress to the Head.

It's definitely a little buggy though and could do with some polishing up.

One other thing I will mention... Right at the first stage when you're putting your Oil Squirters in, the tutorial tells you to put your Oil Squirter Bolts in to your Oil Squirters. What it doesn't tell you to do is TIGHTEN THEM.... 15Nm. each. It WILL allow you to continue on to the next stage of the tutorial while these bolts are still loose.
In-fact, you can progress right up until the entire bottom end is built and to the point where you've just tightened the rod nuts. - the point at which everyone is tripping up.

I already knew I had to tighten them as I've already built probably 20 or more complete engines from start to finish, but for someone seeing this for the first time they may not know.

I'm now going to go back through the entire bottom end tutorial again but this time ignore the tightening of those squirter bolts as the tutorial will automatically trigger once the crank and everything is in place, despite the oil squirters still being loose. This may potentially be the cause of people not being able to progress or clear the tutorial.
Admittedly, I did leave them undone right up until I'd finished tightening all of the rod nuts and then started pressing to tablet buttons to complete the tutorial, so this may have had a bearing one me being able to clear it with a few button presses. I now just want to clarify whether or not this is possible with those oil squirter bolts still undone.
I'll come back with my findings in a few minutes.
Last edited by EssBee; Sep 4, 2019 @ 12:08pm
missingdigitgames  [developer] Sep 4, 2019 @ 12:24pm 
It sounds like steph nailed down what was likely happening- the tutorial is doing a torque check and is probably erroneously checking torque on all the fasteners, not just the rod caps.

The tutorial system is about to completely change so don't worry too much about this being an issue. Going forward tutorials and gameplay will be using a different system.
EssBee Sep 4, 2019 @ 12:35pm 
Just tried it again... left those oil squirter bolts loose but covered everything else. I still managed to press the 'skip' button and then the 'complete tutorial button and continue on to the the oil pan tutorial.
So, although in theory those oil squirter bolts should be tight, that isn't whats stopping the tutorial from progressing.

One other possibility is that one of the oil pump bolts might actually be in one of the water pump bolt holes. There's two holes very close together and they both share the same bolt, so if you accidentally have one of your oil pump bolts tightened correctly but in the water pump hole instead then the tutorial correctly picks up that the oil pump isn't properly tightened and won't let you progress. Might be worth just taking a quick look at that to confirm that's not what's holding you up. Even with a ton of experience, i still made this mistake on the tutorial the first time around, although I spotted it instantly and managed to correct it... but it's definitely fairly easy to do and not notice if you're new at it.
Ol' Man Nipster Sep 6, 2019 @ 2:26am 
Oooo - Cheers, Steph! - The oil squirter bolts I did check the torque for, but the potential for bolting into the wrong hole, so to speak, is a new possibility - will give that a go when I get a moment to crank up the VR
Many thanks for your continued assistance!
EssBee Sep 6, 2019 @ 1:46pm 
No worries. Always happy to try and help.
Lemme know how you get on.

If all else fails it looks as if you can press the 'skip' button on the tablet beside the part of the tutorial you're working on, and the press 'complete' at the top to be able to progress to the next tutorial. (well, that's how it's laid out in desktop mode anyway.. VR my be a little different)
It's possible that this will only work if you have done everything correctly in the current tutorial though.
I know when I was doing that 'oil pump bolt in the water pump hole' experiment for instance, it wouldn't let me use the above button clicking trick to move on... and rightly so... as the oil pump wasn't correctly bolted down.
So yeah, If everything is present and correct, that is one little work-around for you to be able to progress. It's not really cheating (although it might feel like it) as all you're really doing is manually triggering the completion of the tutorial as it doesn't do it itself.
But anyway, as has been stated, the whole tutorial system and a lot of parts of the main game itself are about to see quite a few changes anyway, so hopefully a lot of these little ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ will be ironed out.

Anyway, if you figure it out (or anyone else who has posted here figures their issues out) then make sure to drop a note down here. I'd definitely be interested to see what people come up with.

Last edited by EssBee; Sep 6, 2019 @ 1:53pm
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