What.....actually are these games.

[Nals]

Geniune question.

I remember seeing someone say something? about them back when Recettear came out, and made a light comparison. But since then nothing. It's so far outside my usual gaming wheelhouse I geniunely don't know what these are.

I've watched a dozen trailers now across multiple games, and it's just nonstop anime girls laughing, or running straight through worlds not interacting with them.

What are these games. Are they games? What do you do? Do you actually build up a store and have to buy/sell? Are there quests? Romances? Is there a main story? Are they more like Recettear where you have monthly sale quotas you have to meet? Do you fight stuff? Boss fights? Party members? WHAT IS ATELIER.

[Gin-chan]

hmmm too lazy atm lemme see if i can find and copy paste and old explanation i used for newcomers when sophie came out lol.

[Gin-chan]

Hah found one

The story is typically just like a slice of life anime without the whole saving th whole world/country bit of other JRPGS its more relaxed and there story focuses more on the daily life of the characters. The combat is typical turn based combat however there is more emphasis on using items and crafting better equipments to make your fights easier rather than grinding levels. Its a crafting series after all
>.<. However despite not having a very good story this is a good game to go for if you like relaxing story and cute characters. They also have the some of the best boss fight OST of any RPG i know of and tons of Bonus bosses to fight. Yeah the game may be relaxing however the final boss fights of these games are usually pretty awesome and hard and there are TONS of bonus bosses if you like the challenge.

[Kevin_Arn]

1. It's about crafting an items
2. There's a story, but most of them are family friendly, very innocent story, lol
3. Just like every jrpg, there's store, party members, fighting enemies and bosses.
4. i don't think it's like recettear

[Gin-chan]

Alright found an even better link someone provided long ago on the Sophie forums too

https://www.reddit.com/r/Atelier/comments/5hvb4c/just_what_is_an_atelier_and_where_do_i_start_a/

[dynastystar]

what Atelier game do you think is the best starting points when it comes to the mechanics? I tried playing Sophie but I felt a bit overwhelmed with the amount of interconnecting mechanics, and was confused on some of the battle mechancs(such as what offensive/defensive stances do, what the linking between character does, why some characters assist each other and why they sometimes don't, etc.)

[Gin-chan]

hmm the basics are generally the same though it varies a bit game by game. If you want simpler ones its probably better to try the more RPG oriented atelier series like either Atelier Iris 1/2/3 or Mana Khemia.

Rorona and the rest of the Arland trilogy is probably one of the easier ones when it comes to learning the battles and alchemy mechanics on the PC since its a pretty old title. No comment on the console only ones that came out after the PS2 era since i've yet t try em out lol.

[dynastystar]

Originally posted by Gin-chan:

hmm the basics are generally the same though it varies a bit game by game. If you want simpler ones its probably better to try the more RPG oriented atelier series like either Atelier Iris 1/2/3 or Mana Khemia.

Rorona and the rest of the Arland trilogy is probably one of the easier ones when it comes to learning the battles and alchemy mechanics on the PC since its a pretty old title. No comment on the console only ones that came out after the PS2 era since i've yet t try em out lol.

out of those that are on PC? I've played Atelier Iris 2 and 3, these games seem to be a whole different beast in comparison to those.

[Gin-chan]

i've yet to start Meruru and Totori. But out of all the ones i've played on PC so far Rorona is probably the simplest in mechanics since the combat is a pretty standard turn based with support attacks/cover for the alchemist and with the standard limit break bar later on.

The alchemy is also pretty basic since its just about using better ingredients to make better alchemy items and ofc the usual playing around with transfering traits into ingredient items to put them into the equipments and alchemy items you want to use.

However this is of course kinda offset with the game having a time limit on assignments and thus doesnt really allow you to experiment with stuff without save scumming or doing a NG+ run.

Sophie is probably the best atelier to start with if you wanna take your time learning with the alchemy and item creation mechanics. As for the battle system the ingame explanation would probably be better but here's the basic explanation for it from a guide since i'm too lazy to reinstall the game again to check how the combat was lol.

Each character can also choose between Aggressive and Defensive stance.
What these do is determined by your Chain Counter
When the Chain Counter reaches 100%, characters may perform additional attacks if they are in the aggressive stance.
Characters in defensive stance will try to protect other characters at 100% Chain Counter.
At the start this will then reset to 0%.
However later it will be changed such that it doesn't reset at 100% and continues up to 200%.
At 200% characters in the same stance will perform a much more powerful combination attack or defense depending on the stance.
This will then reset the counter back to 100%.

[Laughing kookaburra]

atelier = trash games about trash girls pretend to be cute
trash franchise

[dynastystar]

Originally posted by Compa Desu:

atelier = trash games about trash girls pretend to be cute
trash franchise

Why don't you make your public profile so that we can see that you haven't touched a single game in the series?

[dynastystar]

Originally posted by Gin-chan:

i've yet to start Meruru and Totori. But out of all the ones i've played on PC so far Rorona is probably the simplest in mechanics since the combat is a pretty standard turn based with support attacks/cover for the alchemist and with the standard limit break bar later on.

The alchemy is also pretty basic since its just about using better ingredients to make better alchemy items and ofc the usual playing around with transfering traits into ingredient items to put them into the equipments and alchemy items you want to use.

However this is of course kinda offset with the game having a time limit on assignments and thus doesnt really allow you to experiment with stuff without save scumming or doing a NG+ run.

Sophie is probably the best atelier to start with if you wanna take your time learning with the alchemy and item creation mechanics. As for the battle system the ingame explanation would probably be better but here's the basic explanation for it from a guide since i'm too lazy to reinstall the game again to check how the combat was lol.

Each character can also choose between Aggressive and Defensive stance.
What these do is determined by your Chain Counter
When the Chain Counter reaches 100%, characters may perform additional attacks if they are in the aggressive stance.
Characters in defensive stance will try to protect other characters at 100% Chain Counter.
At the start this will then reset to 0%.
However later it will be changed such that it doesn't reset at 100% and continues up to 200%.
At 200% characters in the same stance will perform a much more powerful combination attack or defense depending on the stance.
This will then reset the counter back to 100%.

do you think you could link the guide to me just to be sure I have it?

[Gin-chan]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=859099483

[dynastystar]

Originally posted by Gin-chan:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=859099483

thanks, favorited it so that I have it when I pick up the game(busy with a couple other JRPGs I'm busy with).

[Gin-chan]

No worries and happy to help :).

[KylaNyx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyxXKtzJd5U