Question about assignments (possible spoiler of assignment 2)

[DiaborMagics]

Hey guys,

Let's start off by saying I do not follow a guide. Doing so on my first playthrough would defeat the purpose of playing a game. But I do have a question; the second assignment requires me to create bombs, cannons and barrels. I just handed in 40 bombs (10x synthesized, 4 uses each) and the gold stars at the bottom already filled all the way up and Sterk told me it was enough and I got the 'CLEAR' stamp. But... how about the barrels and cannons?

I know I can keep handing things in to increase the red star counts, but does this mean that even if they ask you for multiple types of items, you could just focus on 1? Sounds like that'd be easier. If you focus on 1 and can get a very high rating like that anyway, why bother creating the other 2?

Another thing that confused me was the evalutation of assignment 1 - I got 3 gold stars there. Is that high? I think it's not. Does it go up to 10 for an evaluation?

You don't have to tell me what happens if it's high or low, I just want to know if 3 stars for an evaluation is low or not.

The thing is, before I ended the first term, I had 10 gold stars for the assignment itself and all sub assignments on the list. If 3 stars is low, then that's weird to me, with everything else cleared fully.

Or.. is it the red stars of the assignment that ultimately determine what your rating will be? I did not get all red stars. Once my main assignment got 10 gold stars, I started focussing on all other tasks.

[Rhysandie]

I'm new to the game as well so don't take my word as cannon.

What I've noticed from my playthrough is that as long as I get 10 stars on the required assignment, I will get 3 gold stars for Evaluation Day. It doesn't matter if the red stars fill up completely or not; you will still get the 3 gold stars.

Edit: 3 gold stars is the highest possible outcome for Eval Day.

Check this out: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/726470-atelier-rorona-plus-the-alchemist-of-arland/69598407

[DiaborMagics]

Originally posted by Rhysandie:

I'm new to the game as well so don't take my word as cannon.

What I've noticed from my playthrough is that as long as I get 10 stars on the required assignment, I will get 3 gold stars for Evaluation Day. It doesn't matter if the red stars fill up completely or not; you will still get the 3 gold stars.

Edit: 3 gold stars is the highest possible outcome for Eval Day.

Check this out: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/726470-atelier-rorona-plus-the-alchemist-of-arland/69598407

ah thanks. the first assignments are very easy then. I have so many ingedrients that as soon as I start a new assignment, I can make what I need and get 10 stars. At least, thats what happened on assignment 4 just now.

Thanks tho I thought 3 stars on eval would be low but if its the max I have nothing to fear.

Also, something else, have you blown up the boulder on Spirit's Path in National Mines yet? I just can't do it. I have used ice, bag and normal bombs, of various qualities and traits. My best bomb was a bag bomb with a quality of over 70, with swarm slayer, quality up and forceful and spikes. Yet it still did not work... this took most of my best ingredients, as I still get D ingredients very, very often.

[Rhysandie]

Originally posted by DiaborMagics:

Also, something else, have you blown up the boulder on Spirit's Path in National Mines yet? I just can't do it. I have used ice, bag and normal bombs, of various qualities and traits. My best bomb was a bag bomb with a quality of over 70, with swarm slayer, quality up and forceful and spikes. Yet it still did not work... this took most of my best ingredients, as I still get D ingredients very, very often.

This frustrated me as well. It would seem that quality level has no weight in how much damage it would deal to blockages. You need an ice bomb with "Ice M" effect to destroy breakable(?) boulders. The (red) bomb and "Ice S" ice bomb can only destroy fragile-looking boulders. As for pillars and further blockages, you would need another type of bomb (balbomb) because the "Ice M" bomb would not blow it up anymore.

[DiaborMagics]

Originally posted by Rhysandie:

Originally posted by DiaborMagics:

Also, something else, have you blown up the boulder on Spirit's Path in National Mines yet? I just can't do it. I have used ice, bag and normal bombs, of various qualities and traits. My best bomb was a bag bomb with a quality of over 70, with swarm slayer, quality up and forceful and spikes. Yet it still did not work... this took most of my best ingredients, as I still get D ingredients very, very often.

This frustrated me as well. It would seem that quality level has no weight in how much damage it would deal to blockages. You need an ice bomb with "Ice M" effect to destroy breakable(?) boulders. The (red) bomb and "Ice S" ice bomb can only destroy fragile-looking boulders. As for pillars and further blockages, you would need another type of bomb (balbomb) because the "Ice M" bomb would not blow it up anymore.

Thanks a lot! I'll try that! :D

[DiaborMagics]

Originally posted by Rhysandie:

Originally posted by DiaborMagics:

Also, something else, have you blown up the boulder on Spirit's Path in National Mines yet? I just can't do it. I have used ice, bag and normal bombs, of various qualities and traits. My best bomb was a bag bomb with a quality of over 70, with swarm slayer, quality up and forceful and spikes. Yet it still did not work... this took most of my best ingredients, as I still get D ingredients very, very often.

This frustrated me as well. It would seem that quality level has no weight in how much damage it would deal to blockages. You need an ice bomb with "Ice M" effect to destroy breakable(?) boulders. The (red) bomb and "Ice S" ice bomb can only destroy fragile-looking boulders. As for pillars and further blockages, you would need another type of bomb (balbomb) because the "Ice M" bomb would not blow it up anymore.

so... how did you get Ice M? I can only get my hands on Ice S. My best ice bomb is made from quality 80 and 72 ice stones, quality 70 of that black coal like thing and quality 80 supplement. I can write down the traits but of course only the ice stones have 'Ice Power'. Or would I need to make a supplement with ice power, if that is even possible, or use an ingredient with ice resist? Its too late now so i gotta go to bed.

[Rhysandie]

Originally posted by DiaborMagics:

so... how did you get Ice M? I can only get my hands on Ice S. My best ice bomb is made from quality 80 and 72 ice stones, quality 70 of that black coal like thing and quality 80 supplement. I can write down the traits but of course only the ice stones have 'Ice Power'. Or would I need to make a supplement with ice power, if that is even possible, or use an ingredient with ice resist? Its too late now so i gotta go to bed.

Now that I think about it, I never actually made any, haha! Mild story spoiler - I made the homonculus do it.

When you craft items, there is a bar under each ingredient. It can be either red or pink. The red ones determine an item's effects, such as Ice M. You can easily find which items get the effect by sorting them by category. The pink bar doesn't really matter, as far as I can tell.

In case you really don't have items to make Ice M bombs, I read up online that you can use spiky-filled bag bombs as well. It would need a high quality level ice bomb to make.

[DiaborMagics]

Originally posted by Rhysandie:

Originally posted by DiaborMagics:

so... how did you get Ice M? I can only get my hands on Ice S. My best ice bomb is made from quality 80 and 72 ice stones, quality 70 of that black coal like thing and quality 80 supplement. I can write down the traits but of course only the ice stones have 'Ice Power'. Or would I need to make a supplement with ice power, if that is even possible, or use an ingredient with ice resist? Its too late now so i gotta go to bed.

Now that I think about it, I never actually made any, haha! Mild story spoiler - I made the homonculus do it.

When you craft items, there is a bar under each ingredient. It can be either red or pink. The red ones determine an item's effects, such as Ice M. You can easily find which items get the effect by sorting them by category. The pink bar doesn't really matter, as far as I can tell.

In case you really don't have items to make Ice M bombs, I read up online that you can use spiky-filled bag bombs as well. It would need a high quality level ice bomb to make.

ah, my 70+ bag bomb with spikes and other traits failed tho :( I'll have to try the ice one. Well first I'm omw to work so it's gotta wait till later XD
Thanks again