Why people hate epic games again?

[~Lazy_Eggs~]

It's been sooooooo long and I forgot why people hate epic games ...

What was the reason again???
Fotnite or the "no forums to express my anger for whatever reason"

[morrisseyshair]

Valve created a launcher before Epic Games did so no other company is allowed to create a launcher. It’s stupid tribalism as usual.

The only reason Steam became popular is because they were one of the first launchers and they had rock bottom prices. But now they don’t even have that. Epic Games gives us free games and third-party key sellers sell games at cheaper prices than Steam.

[Red84[GT]]

because its a ♥♥♥♥ launcher

[SchwerMaik]

Probably still salty over the Metro Exedus thingy, but nobody gives a ♥♥♥♥ if its the ea app or ubisoft launcher, lol.

[UdderJuice]

They simpin for Lord Gaben.

[Korinth]

You have plenty of reasons and I'm sick of answering it on every forum talking about it, just use google or else you can find all of these, for example some random posts :

Tim Sweeney abandoned PC for consoles when PC gaming was sinking, and now when PC gaming is double of console gaming, he is back and tries to bring in console logic and console wars to PC, with all the exclusivity, buyouts and all the ignoring of customers. He used that on consoles, especially his beloved PlayStation - people are buying everything advertised and there no decent user game reviews, refunds, that developers can raise rices by $10 for no reason at all and users would buy anyways, so he thinks all gamers are like that. If he was Nintendo fan, then his logic would be even worse than here.

Epic abandoned the PC market “because of pirates” while Gabe/Steam defined it.

> Gabe's opinion on piracy back in 2011
"We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy," Newell said. "Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem. For example, if a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24/7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country three months after the U.S. release and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate's service is more valuable.
"Most DRM solutions diminish the value of the product by either directly restricting a customer's use or by creating uncertainty."
He adds, "Our goal is to create greater service value than pirates, and this has been successful enough for us that piracy is basically a non-issue for our company. For example, prior to entering the Russian market, we were told that Russia was a waste of time because everyone would pirate our products. Russia is now about to become our largest market in Europe.

Now that the PC market has been established, Epic wants a piece of a pie they explicitly left out in the cold. Their “strategy” is trying to win the court of public opinion. Convincing people Steam is a monopoly turning the PC market into a hellhole is needed to try and get people to use EGS from a moral standpoint, largely because no one ever would from a practical one.

It has become a “vendetta” because Epic has committed to this strategy wholesale, even in non-Steam instances (see: Apple). I think a part of this strategy is to just commit and wait out the current generation of gamers for the next that is being sent regular corporate propaganda (kids are also bought by the free games since they can't buy games for themselves yet), but I’m curious if Fortnite will last that long, or that parents won’t eventually have had enough when bad press over this makes the news.

[Yosri_br]

i lost my game progress with 3 different games after i reinstalled the games for the DLC's, and i couldn't even play the DLC's anymore because i needed my completed campaign progress that epicgames deleted.
it does not even have cloud save on most games.
thanks to the rockstar launcher i didn't lose my gta 5 and rdr2 progress while i was still unaware of this.

[Quagimus Decimus]

Originally posted by morrisseyshair:

Valve created a launcher before Epic Games did so no other company is allowed to create a launcher. It’s stupid tribalism as usual.

The only reason Steam became popular is because they were one of the first launchers and they had rock bottom prices. But now they don’t even have that. Epic Games gives us free games and third-party key sellers sell games at cheaper prices than Steam.

Epic games didn't exist until not that long ago, and the only way they even have users on their platform.. because they bribed people to use their platform - which in fact is in every way subpar to steam, and many other launchers.

Steam became popular because of the games that were on the platform... It was compact, fugly, and it worked really well at the time. It had everything you needed to build a community, and they improved the quality of life of the drm/launcher. They set the gold standard for all drm platforms to follow. Epic.. can't even do that right.

Ubisoft - Garbage launcher
EA Origin - Mega trash launcher
Battlenet - Somehow works better than the last two combined
Amazon - Believe me the original launcher was cancer.. they've improved significantly (better than udontplay)
Epic - We're paying people to use our launcher

Not to mention how anti-consumer epic is
You either buy GOG or STEAM
You do your best to avoid the rest.

[UdderJuice]

None of that has anything to do with the current drama. I don't use or have Epic Games installed on my PC. All we are talking about is a cross platform communication service. I plan on playing Dead Island 2 mostly single player but if I get the urge to play online with friends or randos I want the largest player base as possible and Epic Games Services makes that possible. You can use the service and still protest the store. The two things aren't mutually exclusive.

[evil49]

Why not? ))

[Tommy Wiseau✔]

because it's an extra launcher. People tend to bonus dislike other launchers when a game is released on steam but that said game still requires you to install an additional launcher so that would mean EAapp Ubisoft, RGL and, to an extend, EGL. So pretty much all of them. Ubisoft and Ea locks achievements on their launchers as well so even if you own the game on steam you cannot unlock them there. Plus they're all inferior in every way. The only execption is GOG because gog is love, gog is life.

Edit: I forgot Battle net. idk it's "fine" I guess lol

[ShillHog]

Don’t worry about it

[Burnz]

They overpaid publishers to get exclusive games. Money they could have used to impove their horrendous client.

[CallaWolf]

Originally posted by Quagalicious:

Epic games didn't exist until not that long ago, and the only way they even have users on their platform.. because they bribed people to use their platform - which in fact is in every way subpar to steam, and many other launchers.

I know this is nitpicky, but the Epic Games LAUNCHER and the STORE didn't exist until not that long ago. Epic, as a company, existed since the early 90's, hence why they have so much money to throw around at entertaining lawsuits and exclusivity deals.

Not defending them, though. I sgree in the fact that I largely dislike Epic and their practices, myself, I refuse to buy anything from their store. I feel that really the only way they're able to get a player base is because they have to resort to petty school yard tactics.

[ShillHog]

Originally posted by CallaWolf:

Originally posted by Quagalicious:

Epic games didn't exist until not that long ago, and the only way they even have users on their platform.. because they bribed people to use their platform - which in fact is in every way subpar to steam, and many other launchers.

I know this is nitpicky, but the Epic Games LAUNCHER and the STORE didn't exist until not that long ago. Epic, as a company, existed since the early 90's, hence why they have so much money to throw around at entertaining lawsuits and exclusivity deals.

Not defending them, though. I sgree in the fact that I largely dislike Epic and their practices, myself, I refuse to buy anything from their store. I feel that really the only way they're able to get a player base is because they have to resort to petty school yard tactics.

Their storefront is basic & boring.

[zOmbIE]

I don't get the big freak out about Epic's backbone when they use Denuvo.