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id 24. apr. 2024 kl. 4.38
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DENUVO is a deal breaker
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lukaself 27. mai 2024 kl. 12.53 
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More seriously, neither SEGA, Ubisoft or Frontier ever remove Denuvo from their games. EA holds the record with FIFA 14 an 11 year old game still using Denuvo to this day. Those are the biggest Denuvo users. At this point, it's pretty clear the goal is planned obsolescence and not "protection" against piracy.

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Denuvo#List_of_games_using_Denuvo_Anti-Tamper
I suspect that was an agreement, an old one. These days the contract is on-the-clock.
None of the games released by SEGA in the past five years ever removed it, recent or not. Same with Ubisoft and Frontier as well. Whatever agreement they have, it still holds. Frontier even went one step further by officially confirming they have no intention of ever removing Denuvo for any reason.

CAPCOM is quite the exception, actually.
Sist redigert av lukaself; 27. mai 2024 kl. 12.54
Ghost Sonic 27. mai 2024 kl. 13.05 
Its rumoured that game developers will remove the DRM protected games from steam if denuvo goes under someday,
theddy 27. mai 2024 kl. 13.09 
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Its rumoured that game developers will remove the DRM protected games from steam if denuvo goes under someday,
No need for any rumors.. If denuvo is dead & some games wont work steam will make sure that they wont be able to sell them unless they patch it.
cuss 27. mai 2024 kl. 13.11 
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Why quote SEGA? That's console, are we on the same page? No matter, Ubosoft & Frontier deserve each other, Enjoy your game.
lukaself 27. mai 2024 kl. 13.35 
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Why quote SEGA? That's console, are we on the same page? No matter, Ubosoft & Frontier deserve each other, Enjoy your game.
SEGA has around 200 games on Steam. 55 of them have Denuvo, all released between 2015 and 2024. So far, SEGA has removed Denuvo from a grand total of two (2) games. :lunar2019deadpanpig:

It's not hard to see how it could be a dealbreaker to some people.
Sist redigert av lukaself; 27. mai 2024 kl. 13.39
id 27. mai 2024 kl. 14.05 
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Like they did with P4G? Oh wait! They didn't!!!
If you're playing games like P4G then you probably deserve to get ripped off.

I don't care what you think about games I like.
NativeOne 27. mai 2024 kl. 17.37 
steam has it's own DRM for games ..

so why aren't they allowing Players to sell the game(s) they brought on steam to other steam players ??

i mean da-um ..

steam should know if it's a steam game RIGHT ??!

~Hmmmm
id 28. mai 2024 kl. 3.38 
Opprinnelig skrevet av NativeOne:
steam has it's own DRM for games ..

so why aren't they allowing Players to sell the game(s) they brought on steam to other steam players ??

i mean da-um ..

steam should know if it's a steam game RIGHT ??!

~Hmmmm

If you want that there's a store that allow that: https://store.robotcache.com but the system to sell the game and what they pay you is a joke.
AROCK!!! 24. juni 2024 kl. 14.24 
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I have seen games on steam that still use denuvo despite being cracked and even many of these games are over half a decade old.
A crock. Name one game.
UBI did not remove Denuvo after ANNO 1800 was cracked.

Crytech did not revove it even though Crysis remastered was cracked 35 hours after release.

Several other studios left denuvo in after it got cracked due to the stability (or lack thereof) of the cracked version.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6rg3mzMRFg
Sist redigert av AROCK!!!; 24. juni 2024 kl. 14.45
AROCK!!! 24. juni 2024 kl. 14.57 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Ki11s0n3:
Denuvo I can handle. Epic being forced on me is where I draw the line. Game looks fun and was going to buy it until I saw that it forces Epic on you.
LMAO and facepalming at the same time.

You must be young, because no one that was around when STEAM came out and was ACTUALLY forced on us would say something so F-ing ridiculous.


FYI, by 2010 it was all but impossible to find games that did not REQUIRE STEAM, and that is why STEAM has the customer base it does....for well over a decade if you wanted to play on PC, you had no choice other than to use STEAM.
Sist redigert av AROCK!!!; 24. juni 2024 kl. 14.58
Edgar Lindner 25. juni 2024 kl. 7.16 
Game has a standard, a gold and some other versions.
That is a reason for me not to buy and let the publisher know that they are little cvnts!
I know you'll say it became standard in the industry but only because you little cvnts kept buying that poo poo.
Sist redigert av Edgar Lindner; 25. juni 2024 kl. 7.17
Siodog 25. juni 2024 kl. 9.57 
Epic game account is a worse deal breaker
id 25. juni 2024 kl. 10.01 
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Epic game account is a worse deal breaker

I don't understand why competition is bad. It's just another way to buy games. I don't care about anything but the game per se.
DOOM SLAYER 25. juni 2024 kl. 10.39 
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thus I will not buy.

have a nice day.

Main reason: https://gamerant.com/denuvo-outage-servers-down-persona-5-royal-unplayable-online/
well op you just mess your self
AROCK!!! 25. juni 2024 kl. 12.39 
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Epic game account is a worse deal breaker

I don't understand why competition is bad. It's just another way to buy games. I don't care about anything but the game per se.
Sadly quite a few people do not understand how having competition is good for the consumer.
In their feeble little minds, all they know is..hur dur, Epic bad, STEAM good.

Most of them are seemingly unaware that STEAM uses MFN clauses to control the market, and by doing so keep game prices high.

Many think STEAM gives developer unlimited keys, but in reality it's only 5000, and if more are wanted, the studio/developer has to file a request, and as per the contract, STEAM is under no obligation to issue more than the initial amount.

STEAM also uses the MFN clause to control how the studios and developers can distribute them price wise.

They cry about Epic having a 1 year exclusive, but turn a blind eye to the literal thousands of games only available on STEAM, and to the fact that STEAM is a platform that was forced on all of us, and that STEAM single-handedly killed the used game market for PC, and took our ownership rights away.

They also turn a blind eye (or are unaware) that Valve (STEAM) has been sued repeatedly by actual governments for anti-consumer practices / violating consumer protection laws.

They ignore the fact that STEAM normalized MTs and loot boxes / in game gambling.


FFS, valve made close to 1 billion dollars last year solely from CS2 loot boxes....a game exclusive to STEAM, and as the article points out, that does not include the additional 15% STEAM makes from market transactions...a system that will take in as much money as players will pay, but never let any out...so STEAM gets your money no matter what.

https://readwrite.com/valve-makes-over-1-billion-from-counter-strike-2-case-openings-in-2023/#:~:text=CS2%20Case%20Tracker%20estimates%20that,%241%20billion%20for%20the%20year.
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