Level cap way too low

[comatosedragon]

First time player here. Loved DI, couldn't wait for this title to make it to steam.

Loved my first week with it, game play was basically the same as before but with updated mechanics and graphics, exactly what a jaded old timer like me wants.

40 hours in, just finished the Haus DLC (which was terrible, but irrelevant). The last main story mission i finished was turning my blood into the CDC.

The main title screen says I am 46% done with story/ content. I am 1000 XP away from level 30, the cap.

So, why would I keep playing? This realization just sapped any joy I was having right out of me. I doubt I will finish this game now, and I replayed the original at least ten times.

Okay, I'm done shouting at clouds now, but certainly I can not be the only person disappointed by the ridiculously low level cap. (One that has you at the level cap before half the game is complete).

[Purple Monkey]

30 is ridiculously low, but it's not shocking with a game that's 3 players maximum

[Sparhawk122]

With the release of the two DLC they should have also raised the level cap.

[=Axton=]

引用自 Sparhawk122：

With the release of the two DLC they should have also raised the level cap.

THIS. I was 30 before I even started Haus. Now into Sola and figure why even continue.

Read their last news posting, sounds like they are still working on features.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/934700/view/4201372769972349212?l=english

[Bankai9212]

Not sure why people want more levels, with no NG+ and dlc you'll cap out theres nothing else to do or tackle once everything is finished, making more levels means recollecting and leveling gear and making new cards.

[Vin]

引用自 Bankai9212：

Not sure why people want more levels, with no NG+ and dlc you'll cap out theres nothing else to do or tackle once everything is finished, making more levels means recollecting and leveling gear and making new cards.

its because they've gotten used to grinding. i cherish any game that has 0 progression systems because i have MANY games where you just flatout grind your teeth down to nubs.

look at black desert online. superior gameplay but it will grind you and your legacy into the ground.

[Bankai9212]

I get that, but there's no real endgame so adding more levels barring a NG+ is pointless.

[Crazy]

引用自 Bankai9212：

I get that, but there's no real endgame so adding more levels barring and NG+ is pointless.

i agree

[Vin]

引用自 Bankai9212：

I get that, but there's no real endgame so adding more levels barring and NG+ is pointless.

see thats the rub isnt it? they first ask for more levels, than NG+, then more equipment/better loot, then end game, and so on, and so on.

because they enslave themselves to grinding....

[Bankai9212]

引用自 Vin：

引用自 Bankai9212：

I get that, but there's no real endgame so adding more levels barring and NG+ is pointless.

see thats the rub isnt it? they first ask for more levels, than NG+, then more equipment/better loot, then end game, and so on, and so on.

because they enslave themselves to grinding....

Doesn’t have to be grindy, but 30 works with the current amount of content.

[Vin]

引用自 Bankai9212：

引用自 Vin：

see thats the rub isnt it? they first ask for more levels, than NG+, then more equipment/better loot, then end game, and so on, and so on.

because they enslave themselves to grinding....

Doesn’t have to be grindy, but 30 works with the current amount of content.

it doesnt, but it will. guild wars max level is 20 but it has the expected online multiplayer level of grind, WWZ max level for all the classes is 30, and the grind there is quite terrible.

i agree though level 30 is plenty. there is no reason for this game to have a NG+ or more levels.

[Shibby]

If you want to level up all the time then Acitvision and Blizzard oops I mean Microsoft have you covered. You can level up over and over each year in COD and even "prestige" over and over just to do it all over again in a year. Then you have seasons in Diablo that you can grind over and over every few months. And you can level up a battle pass at the same time because who would want to move on and play other games instead when you can see "number go up"?

[Vin]

引用自 Shibby：

If you want to level up all the time then Acitvision and Blizzard oops I mean Microsoft have you covered. You can level up over and over each year in COD and even "prestige" over and over just to do it all over again in a year. Then you have seasons in Diablo that you can grind over and over every few months. And you can level up a battle pass at the same time because who would want to move on and play other games instead when you can see "number go up"?

exactly!

[comatosedragon]

A lot of people are making arguments about the level cap not needing to be increased because there is no NG+ or "endgame content".

My point when making the thread is that I feel the cap is too low for the existing content, like I pointed out less than 50% completion and already at the level cap. Played exclusively single-player.

If they decide to add more content, that's great. But I seriously feel that each (already released) DLC should have increased the cap by at least 5 levels.

//rant

[Vin]

引用自 comatosedragon：

A lot of people are making arguments about the level cap not needing to be increased because there is no NG+ or "endgame content".

My point when making the thread is that I feel the cap is too low for the existing content, like I pointed out less than 50% completion and already at the level cap. Played exclusively single-player.

If they decide to add more content, that's great. But I seriously feel that each (already released) DLC should have increased the cap by at least 5 levels.

//rant

and it would do nothing. card slot wont increase. weapon level will go up to match the enemy level.

its grinding just to grind.

[comatosedragon]

引用自 Vin：

and it would do nothing. card slot wont increase. weapon level will go up to match the enemy level.

its grinding just to grind.

Well that's certainly one way to look at it. My way of looking at it is the game would be better IMHO if the level cap were higher, to compensate for the amount of material already in the game. Of course they cant just say "okay, the level cap is now 45" without making other changes, some other systems would need to be changed to help balance everything, as you pointed out.

Just speaking for myself (and a few other posters), I have no motivation to finish the second half of the game, since my character will not advance or grow in any way from this point forward. It's not about grind, it's about a sense of progression.

Yes, pipe dreams. But that's what steam forums are for, bellyaching, moaning and wishing things were different.