why do people complain so much about epic games?

[ProperCharva]

I get being annoyed about it being exclusive for a year but complaining about EOS is incredibly pathetic

[Chillin]

i agree

[Ghost Sonic]

epic games store holding games hostage as timed exclusives just to force people to use their platform.

Also taking away freedom of choice when it comes to PC games if the developers sold this game on both Steam and Epic games store at the same time at launch we probably would not be seeing these complaints in the first place.

[Narrowmind]

Except, Epic is the option you're asking for. You're actually asking for a monopoly, wanting to stop Epic exclusivity, not even realizing it.

I don't use Epic much either, but it would help if you got the circumstances right. Everything being on Steam actually hurts the consumer objectively.

[Uncle Crispy]

Originally posted by Narrowmind:

Except, Epic is the option you're asking for. You're actually asking for a monopoly, wanting to stop Epic exclusivity, not even realizing it.

I don't use Epic much either, but it would help if you got the circumstances right. Everything being on Steam actually hurts the consumer objectively.

my brother in LSD steam literally is a monopoly as every release HAS to be on it. steam isnt even the best pc platform anymore. gog is the best for gamers while epic is the best for developers

[Narrowmind]

Well, best is relative. For example, I don't tend to mind Steam being a monopoly so far. I know it has the potential to be dangerous, but what they do, I am fine with for now. The discussion, reviews, and giant sales is something in willing to part with. To me, the others don't even try to fill the niche. The free games Epic gives away isn't nearly as valuable to someone like me.

[Uncle Crispy]

Originally posted by Narrowmind:

Well, best is relative. For example, I don't tend to mind Steam being a monopoly so far. I know it has the potential to be dangerous, but what they do, I am fine with for now. The discussion, reviews, and giant sales is something in willing to part with. To me, the others don't even try to fill the niche. The free games Epic gives away isn't nearly as valuable to someone like me.

gog has a far better refund policy, their storefront still has quality control, the vast majority of the games are DRM free so you actually own them, and many older games are updated to work better on modern hardware. epic offers a far better revenue split for developers. gog being better for gamers and epic being better for developers is simply a fact.

[Narrowmind]

No sir, that is not a fact, but is something called an opinion. And since you have repeatedly gone out of your way to show the perspective of each store and what they offer, it should be more obvious to you than many others that there is no objective fact here. You believe what you want and take what's best for you. Respect other men to be able to decide what is best for them. Thanks.

[Uncle Crispy]

Originally posted by Narrowmind:

No sir, that is not a fact, but is something called an opinion. And since you have repeatedly gone out of your way to show the perspective of each store and what they offer, it should be more obvious to you than many others that there is no objective fact here. You believe what you want and take what's best for you. Respect other men to be able to decide what is best for them. Thanks.

i listed facts sir. and the facts prove that gog is better for gamers than steam and epic is better than steam for developers.

you can ignore the facts all you want but they are still facts

[Narrowmind]

Gog being "better for gamers" is not a fact, because not all gamers are looking for generous refund policies, or whatever you want to see as their store's quality control. It is not a fact that you own drm free games. Time and time again this idea that we own our games has been tested, and repeatedly it has been proven that a license to play a game is not the same as game ownership.

As for Epic, while there is an initial revenue split being more fair for the developer in comparison to Steam, there is still a very large segment of the population who will not even consider the Epic game store as worthy of a purchase. Therefore the supposed fact of Epic being better is fully overthrown as soon as the limited contract comes to an end and they hurry over to use the Steam storefront, where they will make the lionshare of their pc revenue. Ergo, it is not objective fact that it is better. It is better in some ways and not better in others. Someone could also come along and say epic is factually better because Epic is willing to drown the gamer with endless free games. It's still not a fact. It is opinion.

Facts are objective, not subjective.

[Uncle Crispy]

Originally posted by Narrowmind:

Gog being "better for gamers" is not a fact, because not all gamers are looking for generous refund policies, or whatever you want to see as their store's quality control. It is not a fact that you own drm free games. Time and time again this idea that we own our games has been tested, and repeatedly it has been proven that a license to play a game is not the same as game ownership.

As for Epic, while there is an initial revenue split being more fair for the developer in comparison to Steam, there is still a very large segment of the population who will not even consider the Epic game store as worthy of a purchase. Therefore the supposed fact of Epic being better is fully overthrown as soon as the limited contract comes to an end and they hurry over to use the Steam storefront, where they will make the lionshare of their pc revenue. Ergo, it is not objective fact that it is better. It is better in some ways and not better in others. Someone could also come along and say epic is factually better because Epic is willing to drown the gamer with endless free games. It's still not a fact. It is opinion.

Facts are objective, not subjective.

so a FAR better refund policy, quality control, and owning your games isnt more consumer friendly?

[Narrowmind]

And now you move the goalpost?

Very well, take care.

Originally posted by Uncle Crispy:

so a FAR better refund policy, quality control, and owning your games isnt more consumer friendly?

[S7.RainbowDash]

Exclusivity deals are cancerous to the industry and a very scummy anti consume practice. So yeah epic games is trash. And won't be buying this game since it needs an epic trash account.

[Uncle Crispy]

Originally posted by Narrowmind:

And now you move the goalpost?

Very well, take care.

Originally posted by Uncle Crispy:

so a FAR better refund policy, quality control, and owning your games isnt more consumer friendly?

i'm simply repeating the exact same facts i stated earlier that you basically said arent better for gamers. if you can not read thats not my fault

[Darth Vader]

Steam > ALL. Just that.

[Ghost Sonic]

steam has been around much longer than epic games store not sure how long that company will last since I heard they are losing more money