How cut is the german version?

[Thorba]

Is this game 100% uncut in germany?

[DestinyGodhead]

Автор сообщения: SlaughterX

Автор сообщения: DestinyGodhead

I am German from Germany and would like to add that the laws in Germany are for very stupid people. I know we live in a "ban"-state where there have been several political discussions about whether shooter games should be banned because they are supposedly responsible for shootings. Yes, that's extremely stupid, I know.
With this post I just wanted to be on the safe side and not end up being the fool. The developers will not receive any money from me if content is withheld from me, no matter what it is.

from what i know as a german there are no bans, you always be allowed to buy the game where ever you want. Even media markt could sell you it but they don´t wanna do it.

I mean, in Germany things are primarily simply banned (by law), even if 99.9% think to themselves: "Please what?"

[.KsE]

Автор сообщения: Garrix_Forever

I don’t care about Germany and the German version of the game, but it’s their own fault that they were cut play what they give you and don't whine

How is it their own fault? nonsense. lmao🤡🤡🤡

[Echorion]

Petition your government to change their legislation on video game censorship then.
Take action, get public attention.

[DestinyGodhead]

Автор сообщения: Echorion

Petition your government to change their legislation on video game censorship then.
Take action, get public attention.

This is almost impossible in Germany because there are so many positions in politics here that if 90% of the population wants something (comprehensible), it can drag on for years and in the end they will simply say no without any elections.
The politicians in our country are very deceitful and corrupt, but other countries shouldn't notice that. I care a lot about politics, but whatever...

I didn't think it would turn out like this here. I actually just wanted a quick answer. If there's censorship, I just don't buy it and that's it.

[AROCK!!!]

Автор сообщения: SlaughterX

Автор сообщения: DestinyGodhead

I am German from Germany and would like to add that the laws in Germany are for very stupid people. I know we live in a "ban"-state where there have been several political discussions about whether shooter games should be banned because they are supposedly responsible for shootings. Yes, that's extremely stupid, I know.
With this post I just wanted to be on the safe side and not end up being the fool. The developers will not receive any money from me if content is withheld from me, no matter what it is.

from what i know as a german there are no bans, you always be allowed to buy the game where ever you want. Even media markt could sell you it but they don´t wanna do it.

if the game is banned/indexed, then it can't be "sold" in Germany...however, you can legally buy the game elsewhere, such as Austria, and play it in Germany....unless STEAM Geo blocks it, like they did with one of the Wolfenstein games.


If Valve would set up an age verification system, then anyone aged 18 and up could buy uncut games (and porn games), but for whatever reason, Valve refuses to do it.

[🅷🅴🆇🅴🅽]

So that even the last person who has no idea can understand, I will use simple words.

Since 2015 German politics has become very liberal on the subject of violence. With 1-2 exceptions (both avoidable), all games since then have been offered uncut in regards of gore, including the Definitive Edition of Dead Island and Dead Island Riptide. Dying Light 2 has always been uncut on the PC and the gore update wasn't even worth mentioning. So violence hasn't been a problem since roughly 2015. But because the developer submitted a cut version in anticipation and without knowing anything - because, as I said, they had no idea about the subject - it was then approved by the rating board. Which is final.

So the publisher/developer is not the savior that some people see. They actively gave the German people an inferior version and see themselves as a benefactor because the game is "otherwise uncut". As an Austrian citizen, I don't care - but I still laugh about this situation and have understanding for the German customers. Of course, the "typical, presumably American youth" has no idea about the subject and posts half-knowledge. Just ignore this.

The game cannot be bought uncut in Germany. A key from key sites or from abroad is irrelevant - as soon as a German Steam account receives the key, the game is cut. Changing the game while visiting a foreign country is also of no use, as changing the region requires a payment method from there. A gift will also not work. So you are not only being passively but actively punished by the developer/publisher for being a fan as a German. So say "Thank you" to them when you see them around here.

[SlaughterX]

Автор сообщения: ℑ𝔯𝔲𝔩𝔞𝔫

So that even the last person who has no idea can understand, I will use simple words.

Since 2015 German politics has become very liberal on the subject of violence. With 1-2 exceptions (both avoidable), all games since then have been offered uncut in regards of gore, including the Definitive Edition of Dead Island and Dead Island Riptide. Dying Light 2 has always been uncut on the PC and the gore update wasn't even worth mentioning. So violence hasn't been a problem since roughly 2015. But because the developer submitted a cut version in anticipation and without knowing anything - because, as I said, they had no idea about the subject - it was then approved by the rating board. Which is final.

So the publisher/developer is not the savior that some people see. They actively gave the German people an inferior version and see themselves as a benefactor because the game is "otherwise uncut". As an Austrian citizen, I don't care - but I still laugh about this situation and have understanding for the German customers. Of course, the "typical, presumably American youth" has no idea about the subject and posts half-knowledge. Just ignore this.

The game cannot be bought uncut in Germany. A key from key sites or from abroad is irrelevant - as soon as a German Steam account receives the key, the game is cut. Changing the game while visiting a foreign country is also of no use, as changing the region requires a payment method from there. A gift will also not work. So you are not only being passively but actively punished by the developer/publisher for being a fan as a German. So say "Thank you" to them when you see them around here.

idk from what i know and did is that every store is able to sell you the uncut version even when it´s banned in germany. there are different ban lists in germany and all list except one are allowed to own and sell except the one list and that is mostly stuff like nazi and religion propaganda.

[SlaughterX]

the trick is a gaming store is allowed to have banned games and sell them but they not allowed to put them where people can see them. im playing uncut games in germany since 1997

[🅷🅴🆇🅴🅽]

Автор сообщения: SlaughterX

Автор сообщения: ℑ𝔯𝔲𝔩𝔞𝔫

So that even the last person who has no idea can understand, I will use simple words.

Since 2015 German politics has become very liberal on the subject of violence. With 1-2 exceptions (both avoidable), all games since then have been offered uncut in regards of gore, including the Definitive Edition of Dead Island and Dead Island Riptide. Dying Light 2 has always been uncut on the PC and the gore update wasn't even worth mentioning. So violence hasn't been a problem since roughly 2015. But because the developer submitted a cut version in anticipation and without knowing anything - because, as I said, they had no idea about the subject - it was then approved by the rating board. Which is final.

So the publisher/developer is not the savior that some people see. They actively gave the German people an inferior version and see themselves as a benefactor because the game is "otherwise uncut". As an Austrian citizen, I don't care - but I still laugh about this situation and have understanding for the German customers. Of course, the "typical, presumably American youth" has no idea about the subject and posts half-knowledge. Just ignore this.

The game cannot be bought uncut in Germany. A key from key sites or from abroad is irrelevant - as soon as a German Steam account receives the key, the game is cut. Changing the game while visiting a foreign country is also of no use, as changing the region requires a payment method from there. A gift will also not work. So you are not only being passively but actively punished by the developer/publisher for being a fan as a German. So say "Thank you" to them when you see them around here.

idk from what i know and did is that every store is able to sell you the uncut version even when it´s banned in germany. there are different ban lists in germany and all list except one are allowed to own and sell except the one list and that is mostly stuff like nazi and religion propaganda.

Even Swastikas are good to go nowadays. Of course, a committee looks at it beforehand, but the Wolfenstein titles as well as Steel Division 2 and the current Sniper Elite games and some games that are not known by name are available in the German store ... uncut.
Swastikas are no longer an exclusion criterion. The release of Youngblood was a wonderful example of this.

[SlaughterX]

Автор сообщения: ℑ𝔯𝔲𝔩𝔞𝔫

Автор сообщения: SlaughterX

idk from what i know and did is that every store is able to sell you the uncut version even when it´s banned in germany. there are different ban lists in germany and all list except one are allowed to own and sell except the one list and that is mostly stuff like nazi and religion propaganda.

Even Swastikas are good to go nowadays. Of course, a committee looks at it beforehand, but the Wolfenstein titles as well as Steel Division 2 and the current Sniper Elite games and some games that are not known by name are available in the German store ... uncut.
Swastikas are no longer an exclusion criterion. The release of Youngblood was a wonderful example of this.

the hard banned stuff is luckily mostly not games

[🅷🅴🆇🅴🅽]

Indeed. But let's concentrate on this game. If the publisher and developer were actually as close to the customer as the PR claims, this would be possible in Germany, completely unchanged.

[MadAsAHatter]

The German version can be made "uncut" in 2 minutes.

[🅷🅴🆇🅴🅽]

Автор сообщения: MadAsAHatter

The German version can be made "uncut" in 2 minutes.

Once more, we have a contender who's blissfully ignorant of the basic premise.

[MadAsAHatter]

Probably, but you do realize that this problem is caused by a generation of Germans that are (hopefully) going to expire in the next 20 years. Until then: adapt.

[The 4Th Survivor]

Автор сообщения: MadAsAHatter

The German version can be made "uncut" in 2 minutes.

Yes that is correct.
But 100,000 USK cut versions were sold. The manufacturer cannot know what was done with Game Exe. The manufacturer sees the many USK CUT versions in the sales figures.
This is bogus, an EXTRA German version USK from 0-18 is no longer allowed to be produced!!!
We have 38 countries in the EU + 1 country Germany where there is approval for every age. (PEGI 3+ to 18+)
But German gamers don't understand this rule, an extra German version MAY NO LONGER BE PRODUCED.
It's better not to have a German version than a German USK version.
f there is no German USK version, there are no problems. Check out Dying Light 1.
No German USK version.
No International ban (co-op.)
No censors!