How do i start the arena quest - mild spoilers

[Guldburk]

How do i start the questline to the arena? I've read that I should get the quest when as i enter the Undercity, but I haven't gotten any. Also I've tried running around the arena area down there, talking to everyone i could fine, but it didn't help much. Been playing for a while now, so i'd rather not start over. Are there any recuirements to start the questline?
I'm lvl 22, done quite a few sidequest and I've just finished the keeper trial.
The first thing i did when i got to Ark was to go to Undercity.
Would it ruin anything if i start the quest by console commands, if that's even possible?

[CullinB]

Just talk to Rasha sitting on the wooden box then you can say you want to fight in arena.

[Guldburk]

She dosn't seem to want to talk to me sadly

[overdev]

please don't force anything by console

normally you get the quest "Blood and Dust" when you enter the Undercity which tells you to watch the fight in the Dust Pit. You need to go to the railing to complete the task.
Then you should talk to Rasha. There should be always quest markers.

Maybe you didn't get the quest for some reason or a trigger messed up.

Do you have the quest? If yes what is the task you need to do?

[Guldburk]

Yeah that's what made me write in here. It does seem like i've somehow messed up the quest when i entered Undercity. I'm standing by the railing watching the fight right now, nothing's happening though, they just keep hitting eachoter without any of them dying. Rasha wont talk to me.
Blood and dust's nighter in my active or completed questlog

[Jouchebag]

The only safe method to fix it would probably be to reload a save from before you entered the Undercity for the first time and hope it triggers properly the second time.

You didn't Fast Travel into the Undercity did you?

Otherwise, the dev might know the correct setstage to at least start the quest and then hopefully it will continue as normal.

[Guldburk]

I don't have an earlier save, I didnt know that I'd missed out until recently.
I didnt fast travel in there, I remember walking very slowly around in there and that i explored the area a lot.
I think I need to fix it by console aswell, but i don't know if the questline interfere with the rest of the game somehow and how essential it is

[Jouchebag]

It is the beginning of the entire Rhalata questline that's like 6 quests long.

The quest should trigger as soon as you get into the Undercity, I believe. No walking around needed. If you missed it, you missed it literally the second you entered the Undercity.

[overdev]

I would suggest to create a thread in the support forum of sureai and attach a save.
Saves are located in "Documents\My Games\Enderal\Saves" and consists of a .ESS and .SKSE file.
The devs are pretty active there.

https://forum.sureai.net/viewforum.php?f=231

Playing around with console commands will only break stuff.

[Guldburk]

I'll try that, thanks

[Hystorm]

Originally posted by Guldburk:

I don't have an earlier save, I didnt know that I'd missed out until recently.
I didnt fast travel in there, I remember walking very slowly around in there and that i explored the area a lot.
I think I need to fix it by console aswell, but i don't know if the questline interfere with the rest of the game somehow and how essential it is

Always, Always, Always have multi, multi-saves for games like this, or all games even....

[Guldburk]

It's 30+ hours ago

[Jouchebag]

Yeah, he didn't realize until MUCH later that the quest never started and went about his game.

I'm a stickler for back ups but I don't keep any further back than 8-10 hours because hell if I'm replaying all that.





[Experiment]
If it's not a bug they can identify and the quest simply didn't trigger, then setting the quest stage is probably all the devs are going to do anyway. It's most probably stage 0, 1, 5 or 10 and as long as you move sequentially without skipping any stages it likely won't break anything.

If you're bored while waiting for the devs, you could make a backup save and try it. Just do it from outside the arena area, in a different location, then enter the arena after getting the quest to start.

setstage FS_NQR01 0
check the quest log and see if the marker points at the arena
setstage FS_NQR01 1
check the log and map again
setstage FS_NQR01 5
check it again, then try 10

Once you get it to start, go to the arena and see if everything progresses normally.

The quest has many stages so I doubt it's higher than 10 to start it. The empty stages don't do anything and as long as you're not skipping more than 5 at a time you will not likely skip any important ones.

I would be more wary of this approach in the middle of a chain of quests, but being that this is literally the starting point of a chain of quests the scripts involved should be really simple and not attached to much else yet.


The biggest issue is not actually carefully moving through quest stages, it's if whatever caused it not to trigger in the first place (like the random bug or mods) causes more problems.

[CullinB]

Wrye Bash supports Enderal that helps your save management

[Guldburk]

Yeah I'm a bit worried that I'll find other issues now that i know there's this one. But on the other hand, I've played for days without any big issues, so hopefully it's "only" this.

I tried to setstage FS_NQR01 0 on a backup, it added the quest, but when i got to the arena Rasha still wouldnt speak to me. :(

[Jouchebag]

Originally posted by Guldburk:

Yeah I'm a bit worried that I'll find other issues now that i know there's this one. But on the other hand, I've played for days without any big issues, so hopefully it's "only" this.

I tried to setstage FS_NQR01 0 on a backup, it added the quest, but when i got to the arena Rasha still wouldnt speak to me. :(

Yeah quest stages trigger events so you might need to work your way up the ladder 5 at a time until it triggers properly. 0 might add the quest, but not trigger the actual events necessary to continue.

Playing with setstage is always wonky and last resort. It's better to know the actual correct stages but they aren't always easy to locate.