Can't learn hidden talents

[Natmaniac]

Hi, i've got 12 memory points left and more than 30 in all magic trees and yet when i use hidden talent books nothing happens. I tried Glacial Bomb, Psionic Splinter and Onslaught but none of them works, i don't undertands why. Also i got a hidden talent book from Tharael's chest after the Ralatha's questline, and i do get a talent when i use the book, but i don't get the achievement. I can use the talent but it as a weird description in my spell list (it has no indicated cooldown).
Can someone help me ? I really want the achivement, i almost got them all

[overdev]

You also need to have a skill of 90 or higher in the specific magic school of the related skill

so it won't be possible to learn every mythical spells/talents
also there is no achievement for learning all mythical skills, only one for learning a mythical ability and learning one mythical spell

[Natmaniac]

Oh, sorry if i got missunderstood, I'm not talking about the mythical spells i already got this one.
I'm talking about the hidden talents, the ones you need to spend memory points to learn, that works like shouts in Skyrim. The name of the achievement I want is probably something "Hidden Power" (it's "Pouvoir caché" in French). It's the the books that goes in "food" part of your inventory, just like learning books and crafting books. But like I said, when i use these ones, nothing happens.

[DarrkPhoenix]

It's been a while, but if memory serves there are talent tree requirements in order to learn this hidden talents (e.g. must have allocated a certain number of talents in a certain tree to learn a certain level of a certain skill). Psionic Splinter requires investment in the sinistrope tree, Glacial Bomb requires investment in one of the rogue trees, and Onslaught requires investment in one of the warrior trees. There are also three levels to each of the skills, which you have to learn in order, and each subsequent level requires a higher level of investment in the corresponding talent tree.

Regarding Fury Unleashed that you get from the Rhalata questline, I'm guessing that it was set up to work a little differently, possibly not having talent tree requirements but also not counting towards the achievement. I ended up saving Tharael in my playthrough, thus didn't get those talent books and can't speak much more to it.

[overdev]

引用自 icohunami：

Oh, sorry if i got missunderstood, I'm not talking about the mythical spells i already got this one.
I'm talking about the hidden talents, the ones you need to spend memory points to learn, that works like shouts in Skyrim. The name of the achievement I want is probably something "Hidden Power" (it's "Pouvoir caché" in French). It's the the books that goes in "food" part of your inventory, just like learning books and crafting books. But like I said, when i use these ones, nothing happens.

Yes and there are ability/talent books for these and spell versions. For warrior/rogue it's mythical talents/abilities and for mages there are mythical spells.

For the achievement you only need one. Like I said you need at least 90 skill points in the skill related to the talent, the top memory point of the related memory/skill tree and one memory point.

You can read more about these abilities and spell here: https://en.wiki.sureai.net/Enderal:Mythical_Spells

[Natmaniac]

ok, so, since it didn't work, I used cheat codes to have every point I needed : litteraly have all the memory trees completed, and every learning skills and crafting skills at 100. I have 12 spare point in all 3 categories (memory, learning, crafting), and yet none of the 9 hidden talents books works. Mythical spell books work normally, i learned 2 of them no problem, but hidden talents don't. I'm trying to get them through the /psb console command, but it's too many and makes the game crash :c