Dark Chambers of our Mind - Thareal Ending (SPOILERS)

[Anumidium]

So during one of the prerequisites to this quest, the one with Nailaq, I originally wanted to keep him alive. However, when I saw Thareal disproved of this, I loaded my save and changed that. Now, at the end of DCOOM, it really came to bite me in the ***. Is there anyway through console commands I could set it so Thareal doesn't kill himself? I really want to keep him alive, the only reason I loaded that save was so he'd like me lmao

[Jouchebag]

Nope. It's just the consequence of constantly putting a person's feelings before your own convictions.

[Anumidium]

Originally posted by Jouchebag:

Nope. It's just the consequence of constantly putting a person's feelings before your own convictions.

Youch, that one hurt

[Macro Tofu]

I managed to save him and he moves in to my house, I guess there are other conditions to determine if he could be persuade? Rhetoric definitely have no use(shame).

[Anumidium]

Originally posted by Macro Tofu:

I managed to save him and he moves in to my house, I guess there are other conditions to determine if he could be persuade? Rhetoric definitely have no use(shame).

Yeah, tis a shame. I can't just watch him die though, I may as well load a save then. Wish me luck

[Jouchebag]

Originally posted by Anumidium:

Originally posted by Macro Tofu:

I managed to save him and he moves in to my house, I guess there are other conditions to determine if he could be persuade? Rhetoric definitely have no use(shame).

Yeah, tis a shame. I can't just watch him die though, I may as well load a save then. Wish me luck

Siding with the Father has it's own great reward. Since I knew I couldn't save Tharael I just changed sides. There are revelations in those final moments which cast the Father in a different light, anyway.

I would have had to roll back like 10 hours to get back to Nailaq. Whether or not you "approve" of Tharael's actions there being the most important decision you'll make in the quest does seem a little arbitrary.

[Anumidium]

Originally posted by Jouchebag:

Originally posted by Anumidium:

Yeah, tis a shame. I can't just watch him die though, I may as well load a save then. Wish me luck

Siding with the Father has it's own great reward. Since I knew I couldn't save Tharael I just changed sides. There are revelations in those final moments which cast the Father in a different light, anyway.

I would have had to roll back like 10 hours to get back to Nailaq. Whether or not you "approve" of Tharael's actions there being the most important decision you'll make in the quest does seem a little arbitrary.

I did hear the reward from siding with the Father was pretty good! Goes entirely against my character's moral code though, so maybe in a darker playthrough I'll do it. The Father is a really interesting character though, he really is quite a guy

[gnewna]

Tbh I felt that what he says at the end (well, idk if he says anything after the fight) put him in pretty much the same light, if not worse.

[Jouchebag]

The Father experimented on fatally ill children for his own selfish purposes. However, he did succeed at "curing" several children and granting them an adult life they wouldn't have had otherwise. You realize that's literally what St. Jude's CRH does?

Tharael was just as selfish but nothing good ever came from his life. He failed to get his revenge and he left a trail of bodies behind himself for no good reason. This is why he jumps.

[Anumidium]

Originally posted by Jouchebag:

The Father experimented on fatally ill children for his own selfish purposes. However, he did succeed at "curing" several children and granting them an adult life they wouldn't have had otherwise. You realize that's literally what St. Jude's CRH does?

Tharael was just as selfish but nothing good ever came from his life. He failed to get his revenge and he left a trail of bodies behind himself for no good reason. This is why he jumps.

I'm not sure what you're getting at? I know why he jumps, and he certainly wasn't innocent. He's very misguided, and I like that there's a chance to help him

[Jouchebag]

That Tharael is both the lesser evil and the lesser good. He's hypocritical beyond any measure of sane thinking and results in being an almost purely destructive force.

I agree that the chance to save Tharael is a great plot choice, but he doesn't necessarily deserve being saved any less than The Father deserved his acension.