Celia too weak?

[UK_John]

I am struggling on the quest for the black stone at De'Gaurr castle, this is because I keep dying - and that's partly to Celia being so weak! She goes running in like a tank and is down on her knees in 10 seconds, leaving all the enemies for me. Obviously the game is levelled because you have a partner with you, but I find she way more useless than Jespar! And I am NOT being sexist, it's just the facts! She plays a tank, but she's not a tank. In fact I think her "other" skill should come out on tough fights instead of in between fights! Anyone else feel Celia is too weak? Anyway I can make her stronger? Some cheat or INI file or something?

[MikeBob2013]

I haven't gotten to this stage of the quest yet, but I've noticed that companions in general (Jespar, Esme, etc) tend to go charging in to engage hostiles often before I'm ready to.

I've thought that maybe a solution to this might be to reduce their aggro range a bit, but then I suppose they'd become less responsive in other situations as well.

As for your dilemma, I can't rightly say. I'm sure there might be a console command that'll help you, but I don't bring up the console except to toggle off the grass when I need to. Other than that, I know pretty much zilch about using console commands. =p

[Jouchebag]

Every time you have an NPC follower/partner in Enderal they will charge in like dummies and die in 10 seconds. Jespar, Calia, Dijaam, Esme, Tharael--those are the the ones off the top of my head--none of them were very helpful.

The devs clearly don't intend to ruin their difficulty balance so everything is tuned as if you don't have a follower and followers are tuned to remind you the game will not be easier with them.

[UK_John]

@Jouchbag I can certainly disagree about Jespar. He seems much stronger than Celia. For every multiple enemy battle I would say Jespar goes down about half as many times as Celia. I haven't had the quests with the other followers yet.

[Jouchebag]

Originally posted by UK_John:

@Jouchbag I can certainly disagree about Jespar. He seems much stronger than Celia. For every multiple enemy battle I would say Jespar goes down about half as many times as Celia. I haven't had the quests with the other followers yet.

What I do notice is that Jespar's dual wield causes him to spin around enemies and he might be dodging better than Calia's slow 2H swings let her. However, his overall effectiveness doesn't seem much better.

It might also be a skewed perspective: Jespar is with you for many lower level, easier locations. That castle with Calia was one of the hardest locations I've been to.

[Quacksalber]

Jespar in my experience is great at the beginning of the game and gets increasingly useless to the point he's more or less always down, while Calia has always been pretty useless for me. Once you pass beyond a certain point, they are more of a liability than anything else, but at least they can't die.

[UK_John]

@EH! Well I would say Jespar is okay all the way to the middle of the game. Celia, as you say, has never been useful.

[jeffers0329]

Before FS, companions were flagged as ghosts, so they couldn't take damage at all. Currently, they have those flags removed, but their stats weren't adjusted to compensate for this change which is why they seem so weak (esp vs. high level enemies).

[Quacksalber]

Originally posted by jeffers0329:

Before FS, companions were flagged as ghosts, so they couldn't take damage at all. Currently, they have those flags removed, but their stats weren't adjusted to compensate for this change which is why they seem so weak (esp vs. high level enemies).

Oh wow.

[Ishan451]

Originally posted by UK_John:

I am struggling on the quest for the black stone at De'Gaurr castle, this is because I keep dying - and that's partly to Celia being so weak!

Nah, that is you being to weak. You shouldn't expect the NPC to do your work for you. Once you invested a bit into gearing and leveling up via side quests you will be able to do everything this quest throws at you on your own without her.

[UK_John]

@Ishan451 Seen LP'ers with very similar skill levels having problems too. I have never said I expect Celia to kill all the enemies, I have said she goes down so quick she may as well not be there, when I am sure the developers have added more/stronger enemies on the basis she is with you.

[Ishan451]

Originally posted by UK_John:

@Ishan451 Seen LP'ers with very similar skill levels having problems too.

Which only goes to show that you are underleveled for the content you are attempting. Do more sidequests, raise your level and skill levels.. attempt again. Its not timed.

[Jouchebag]

Originally posted by UK_John:

I have said she goes down so quick she may as well not be there

Then assume she's NOT there and play like she's NOT there, because this really seems to boil down to a difficulty issue more than a complaint that companions suck. They do. But does it really matter?

[cwsumner]

"Maintain your battle line." It means that you must keep even with their position, if they hang back you do, if they rush in you do too. Otherwise they get surrounded and you are by yourself.

And more than one old "sarjent" has cursed the allied green troops that rush in too early, making them bring in their people as well! 8-}