Ore visibility

[Tim the Enchanter]

Anyone else having problems identifiying if a rock is an ore vein or not? Didn't find any mod in the Workshop, so, is there another way?

[BarbarianHeart]

The game is yet young. More mods will be converted over time.

[Jouchebag]

I do feel a bit lost without glowing ore veins.

It's more immersive this way, I suppose. We have to keep a closer eye out.

I assume they respawn like in Skyrim? So we can always take note and go back for more later.

[Nerevar]

ore respawns. and it shouldnt glow by default. install a cheat mod if you care about such things. ore didnt glow in vanilla skyrim either.

[Fioretical]

No...this has never been a problem. All ore veins have a very significant look. Its easy to tell from quite a distance what is or is not an ore.

[Jouchebag]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

ore respawns. and it shouldnt glow by default. install a cheat mod if you care about such things. ore didnt glow in vanilla skyrim either.

Yeah that's the point. It was just as nearly impossible to locate in Skyrim without Glowing Ore Veins.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/193/

Mod #193. That should tell you how eager people were to actually be able to find ore veins to mine.

I'm probably walking past at least half of the ore I could be mining just because I don't notice it.

[Nerevar]

it wasnt NEARLY impossible to find by any means dude. dont go overboard here. people are just blind because they are to conditoned to have thier hand hold in a game by now. when i see people using terms like impossible i know its them. not the game thats the problem.

there was no problem with skyrims ore visibility. and there isnt one with enderals either. people are just lazy and want thier hands beeing hold fulltime by a game.

people needed cheat mods forever due to beeing bad/lazy/blind whatever you wanna call it. doesnt mean game should be like that by default as it forces cheat mods on everyone then basically.

[Jouchebag]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

it wasnt NEARLY impossible to find by any means dude. dont go overboard here. people are just blind because they are to conditoned to have thier hand hold in a game by now. when i see people using terms like impossible i know its them. not the game thats the problem.

there was no problem with skyrims ore visibility. and there isnt one with enderals either. people are just lazy and want thier hands beeing hold fulltime by a game.

people needed cheat mods forever due to beeing bad/lazy/blind whatever you wanna call it. doesnt mean game should be like that by default as it forces cheat mods on everyone then basically.

Exaggeration aside, it was obnoxious.

You should compare it to the rest of the game:

-Unique items are often placed on obvious altars next to key enemies
-Pickable herbs are brightly colored or have obvious locations like fallen logs or by a pond
-Puzzle solutions are rarely more than a few feet away

BUT

-Ore veins blend into the background like Navy SEALs about to slit your throat and can appear literally anywhere there's a cave, a cliffside, a craggy crevice, or an old ruin.

No, not impossible. Just obnoxious.

[Punda Bar]

for me, it seems the visablity of ore viens very a far bit, some are brightly colored, others aren't, and lighting conditions seem to have a bigger impact than in skyrim iE at night the colors de-saturate (if that's the correct term) which is another big factor. I'm sure I've missed a number of them, and also seen a number that stick out easily.

[Nerevar]

Originally posted by Jouchebag:

Originally posted by Nerevar:

it wasnt NEARLY impossible to find by any means dude. dont go overboard here. people are just blind because they are to conditoned to have thier hand hold in a game by now. when i see people using terms like impossible i know its them. not the game thats the problem.

there was no problem with skyrims ore visibility. and there isnt one with enderals either. people are just lazy and want thier hands beeing hold fulltime by a game.

people needed cheat mods forever due to beeing bad/lazy/blind whatever you wanna call it. doesnt mean game should be like that by default as it forces cheat mods on everyone then basically.

Exaggeration aside, it was obnoxious.

You should compare it to the rest of the game:

-Unique items are often placed on obvious altars next to key enemies
-Pickable herbs are brightly colored or have obvious locations like fallen logs or by a pond
-Puzzle solutions are rarely more than a few feet away

BUT

-Ore veins blend into the background like Navy SEALs about to slit your throat and can appear literally anywhere there's a cave, a cliffside, a craggy crevice, or an old ruin.

No, not impossible. Just obnoxious.

so because alot in the game is dumbed down to a level a monkey can find everything and deadric artifact quests get stuffed right into your face when you enter town does mean everything should be like this?

yeah no thanks. we need less dumbing down not more.

its obnoxious for YOU. not for everyone.

that beeing said in skyrim it didnt even matter as stupid moronic leveled vendor loot made them sell all ingots anyway. so looking for ore veins was a moot thing to do.

skyrim did so many things wrong as a TES game tough. it was beyond help since the start in that regard.

[Jouchebag]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

yeah no thanks. we need less dumbing down not more.

its obnoxious for YOU. not for everyone.

Do read ALL my words. At no point did I say this was a bad decision or that it should change--just that it's jarring to change from my 20th playthrough of Skyrim, where I have the game tailored to ease of use, to Enderal's immersive, slower pace.

Originally posted by Nerevar:

skyrim did so many things wrong as a TES game tough. it was beyond help since the start in that regard.

Totally agree. But it's following a pattern.

[Commisar Jon Fuklaw]

Nope, no such problem. I would suggest glasses or contacts, as this is not a game problem, but a personal biology problem.

[Jouchebag]

Originally posted by Commisar Jon Fuklaw:

Nope, no such problem. I would suggest glasses or contacts, as this is not a game problem, but a personal biology problem.

Which is why the 193rd out of 70,000+ mods for Skyrim was a texture replacer to make ores glow, right? Because it was only one person's issue.

If you were trying to come off as a donkey, then you succeeded with aplomb and a pinned tail.

[Nerevar]

that number only shows there is too many players who need handholding in the end. it therefore is not a good sign but a bad one tbh.

a cheatmod is also the number 1 download for kingdom come deliverance. why`? because that game is more aimed at dedicated players than casuals. so the casuals resort to cheatmods to play. which is fine. as createing a cheatmod requires little effort. while doing the opposite is rather difficult and requires much more effort.

but that doesnt mean its the right way to do your game in the first place. as dumbed down gameplay is never good gameplay in the end. especially for rpgs.

[Jouchebag]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

but that doesnt mean its the right way to do your game in the first place. as dumbed down gameplay is never good gameplay in the end. especially for rpgs.

There is no "right way" to play a single player game. Arguing that is like saying there's a "right way" to live a life when there's 3000 years of philosophy that would say it's subjective.

Have you ever gone to a restaurant and looked at the ramp next to the entry stairs and thought "I don't need that ****, they should just tear it out. Everyone should walk up stairs like real humans."

Because that's what you're saying here.

[Snowskeeper]

Originally posted by KuhMuhNist:

Anyone else having problems identifiying if a rock is an ore vein or not?

I haven't had much difficulty, personally. Ore veins have a very distinct shape and colour; it's fairly obvious, so long as you're not rushing everywhere you go. The only ore I'm ever really at risk of missing is silver, sometimes, and that's because silver blends into the rock around it; everything else is very clearly out of place.

(Shadow Steel in particular literally glows, but)