How the hell can you start?

[LostManAbroad]

As a long time veteran of both the Elder Scrolls games and the Fallout games I was really looking forward to trying this out. So far I am getting really frustrated. I don't mind for games to be a challenge but this is ridiculous. Of course you start with no armour and weak weapons as I would expect in the game but so far everything in the game can kill you so fast and you have to keep healing which keeps increasing your fever.

I hate cheating at games but I am about to look up the console command for god mode because I am not enjoying running away from all the trolls and other tough enemy that seem to have been put in the starting areas.

I am going to play through for a few more hours but if this game doesn't ease up a little soon then the developer is not going to like the review I leave.

[Gomer]

Lol, if your first impulse when experiencing difficulty is raging on the forums instead of checking the difficulty slider ( as a "longtime" TES and Fallout fan would know) then you're probably at fault and not the game.

[LostManAbroad]

There's always one!! Actually TES games always start on easy and you have to put the difficulty up. This is a game that is meant to start hard and the default difficulty is Adept so you don't know what you are talking about.

[@Ixxmantisxxl]

N473님이 먼저 게시:

risiblewilbury님이 먼저 게시:

magic is super powerful early on.

...What? No it's not. I started as an elementalist for my first playthrough and got stomped repeatedly until mid game.

Stealth archer or stealth summoner is probably the easiest play style. Just keep in mind stealth isn't super broken in enderal. Unless you're in a pitch black dungeon, the enemies will probably be able to spot you in their line of sight.

Those fire hands wrekt the trolls on Adept before I changed to easy mode due to Arps :D but yeah... That was also my first character, Now I am on my second and she is a Heavy Armor Sneak Phatamilist? (SP)

[Purpleganja]

Seriously, i think the best to do in the beginning is to get the lightning spell, put 1 point in phasmalist to get the first soul on the way. Sneak past wolves, run from troll, kill a single mage (with lightning and downing a couple heal pots) in a shack on the way to get summon wolf.
Swim down the river and up to riverville safely and go to the church, kneel before a bench and pray, the gods will reward you ;)

Edit:
The single point in phasmalist is good if you put 2 more points to be able to use it and 3 more points into enchanting perks goin along with leveling enchanting as a profession.

With that you can squeeze a lot of value from the first soul while it is very good in the beginning. You can transition out of it later on or w/e you like at that point, but the 3 points needed to unlock enchanting perks have not been wasted.

[MikeBob2013]

Gomer님이 먼저 게시:

Lol, if your first impulse when experiencing difficulty is raging on the forums instead of checking the difficulty slider ( as a "longtime" TES and Fallout fan would know) then you're probably at fault and not the game.

Congratulations - your post is perhaps the singularly most unhelpful, unedifying waste of space I've seen on these boards yet.

('Gomer' indeed.)

[Sidian]

LostManAbroad님이 먼저 게시:

I don't mind for games to be a challenge but this is ridiculous. Of course you start with no armour and weak weapons as I would expect in the game but so far everything in the game can kill you so fast and you have to keep healing which keeps increasing your fever.

In the starting area, there are plants ("moon carrot") that heal you instantly without increasing Arcane Fever. Eating food restores HP between fights without a disadvantage, so you should start every fight with full HP and survive without drinking a health potion (unless it's a bigger fight against 4+ opponents). Use a few level ups to increase your HP if you are a mage, only increase HP until you are comfortable with surviving if you play a melee character.

And try to avoid damage in combat. E.g. you can step to the side or to the back if a character starts their attack animation and you will be able to dodge very often. Do not just stand in their face and take a beating.

N473님이 먼저 게시:

risiblewilbury님이 먼저 게시:

magic is super powerful early on.

...What? No it's not. I started as an elementalist for my first playthrough and got stomped repeatedly until mid game.

And when i played as an elementalist, it was so much easier that i also used spells with other characters (stealth archer, melee) until they got their relevant talents/memories.
Magic IS super powerful early on. Use the flame bite spell, and just use it in short bursts. The majority of your damage will come from the fire DoT, and you can defeat every wolf pack without running out of mana.
https://youtu.be/XEZouZ07ySU

It's even easier once you get your first summon spell (which you can use without spending any points in entropy).

N473님이 먼저 게시:

Plus you can have a "strengthen summon" enchantment on a bunch of gear and the summons become pretty much invincible. The phasmalism is especially broken if you give them resist magic gear and fortify armor skill enchants while using summoner gear on yourself.

Summoner gear doesn't work on apparitions. It should, but it doesn't. Unless you are using a ritualist build, using summoner gear as a phasmalist is pretty much pointless.

[Deadbubble]

Eat food. Unlike Skyrim, food has an actual benefit. Found throughout the world, gives great out of combat healing (which scales to your max hp), and plentiful. If you eat often, its easy to keep youreslf at max hp between any encounters.

[Guts]

Sidian님이 먼저 게시:

Summoner gear doesn't work on apparitions. It should, but it doesn't. Unless you are using a ritualist build, using summoner gear as a phasmalist is pretty much pointless.

I grabbed the perk that causes my summons to strengthen my apparition. Having a summon that's 300% stronger than normal because of my gear and strengthens the apparition is nice. Didn't know the summoner gear doesn't work for the apparition. The game says it's supposed to, but I guess this is still in development. Doesn't really matter when you've got the tormented soul in legendary and enchanted armor of the righteous path, I guess.

[heresy]

enderal is a mod game with traditional rpg values while a wolf isnt as such a danger packs are!
dont take on more than two enemies at once from the start?

1.trolls were always dangerous early game in skyrim too
2.spec you memory points in your main offence magic sword&board archery (gauge is whether you kill something within 3-4 hits you good to go learn points into both atk and def alternately
3.collect ingredients to make potions
4.its a good idea to spec handicraft alchemi enchant rhetoric to 25 then main one of them
5.run to riverville and do the kids quest at farm (xp and item) then shop for better equipment
6.hmm the old house looks adandoned near weaponship armourer maybe there's a way in?
7.scout the area for ingredients mud crabs local bandits till your confident
8.go back near start and ruin those wolfs trolls bandits lives
9.this game isnt so hard now.... or is it?

im assuming you've jespar by now? after the two alchemist?
if so when you wake up go back down to old dam lookout and encounter the lone bandit collect things in the area and go inside the hut shed thingy at stairs (spiders) an make some potions
(there is a guide on here) go up to fight spiders or just go on to riverville as stated before

some ingredients to start you off plus receipes found everywhere

ambrosia baldris root, vynroot, thistle
restore health *arcane fever* blue malpharous flower, wheat,sheer cap?,red russal, yellow wing
restore mana lavendar, oil,mora tap,root,spiddal,taproot,
invis moth,baldris root,pus bug
paralyse artichoke,human flesh,mud morel,shear cap (use on weapon)
cure dease mud crab rat skin or meat

spells
life absorbtion (my go to healing) *no arcana fever
summon whatever wolf, bear etc
food source
cabbage soup was instant heal 20pts plus stamina regen
honey pot 11/sec heal over non combat time
fruits and vegs for instant heals

[ÄmJii]

Early game is rough for sure, I ended up abusing poor pathing AI whenever I was near water. Lure your melee enemies near water, pelt them with spells/arrows and jump into water -> Melee foes can't reach you, so they'll head behind cover.
Now step out of water to lure them in again, pelt them some more and jump into water. Rinse and repeat until enemies are dead.

Bit of a cheap trick, but it makes early game more manageable.

[Deisophia]

Pacinomancers post is good except for a few things... life absorption does raise your arcane fever, yet it's useful enough so hang on to it as a necessary spell.
Use the special healing roots you can find around the environments.
If you're going to play a mage character the arcane fever heavily penalizes you early game after a story event later on it's not so bad and mages become more viable. So developing a hybrid class is better to deal with early game.
Ambrosia should be a necessary purchase early game. Try get a few when you arrive in Riverville.
Don't attack enemies outright. (Like the trolls) You will die fast, discretion is the better part of valour. Later on you can blitz through this area easily. Trolls are not high level enemies like dnd cough cough.
And as he said eat food. It's the best item for healing early game. Cabbage soup suddenly tastes great! (You can pause eat, then resume combat with your health recharging)

[Sidian]

Deisophia님이 먼저 게시:

Pacinomancers post is good except for a few things... life absorption does raise your arcane fever, yet it's useful enough so hang on to it as a necessary spell.

No, it doesn't.

Deisophia님이 먼저 게시:

If you're going to play a mage character the arcane fever heavily penalizes you early game after a story event later on it's not so bad and mages become more viable.

Arcane fever is even less relevant for mages since they can use summons, stay at a distance and use life absorption which doesn't cause arcane fever to heal. Melee characters have to rely more on healing potions until they get enough HP to survive encounters without healing and then heal up with food between encounters.

Deisophia님이 먼저 게시:

Ambrosia should be a necessary purchase early game. Try get a few when you arrive in Riverville.

Never bought a single Ambrosia. And i have like 20 of them in my stash.

[Purpleganja]

Sidian님이 먼저 게시:

Arcane fever is even less relevant for mages since they can use summons, stay at a distance and use life absorption which doesn't cause arcane fever to heal. Melee characters have to rely more on healing potions until they get enough HP to survive encounters without healing and then heal up with food between encounters.

Melee characters can cast summons too!

[Sidian]

Purpleganja님이 먼저 게시:

Melee characters can cast summons too!

That's true, but using summons is even safer/easier if can stay at a distance. :)

[Deisophia]

Sidian님이 먼저 게시:

Purpleganja님이 먼저 게시:

Melee characters can cast summons too!

That's true, but using summons is even safer/easier if can stay at a distance. :)

You can yes, in fact I made extensive use of summons. Summons also increase your fever though..

And yes, every time I cast heals my fever rose. Maybe I played an earlier version, and it was patched out but I distinctly remember checking and seeing my fever had increased, because like the op I was raging at the early game before settling into a comfortable groove mid-game.