What’s the most BROKEN civ in 2024?🧐

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We all know USA, has to be up there, but what civs do you find the most frustrating to play against?

[Sayyed H.N.]

usa is super annoying, but china, hausa and ottos are just a pain in the ass to deal with, china is super spammy and some units are quite tanky and super cheap to replenish, hausa needs no explaination, super boomy with really strong age 2 options, call it akan spam, raiders and javeliners and ofc the super annoying griot that tanks quite hard, ottos well the abus spam is quite abusive specially if in the mix theres humbaracis, azaps or horse cav, its really hard to fight them.

[Dutchgamer1982]

I personally hate ottomans to fight against..

as I prefer late game civs and card deck focussed on eco/unit buffs not short term gains..

I really hate how ottomans can use all the food I spend building my economy up and wipe me out quite early in the game.. with me basicly no chance to counter that.

late game I can manage them.. but ot rarely gets to lategame vs ottomans.

you build 8 vills.. they age to age2

you age to age 2.. they walk into you base with just enough units to kill you off.

[Dutchgamer1982]

I like playing dutch.. but vs ottomans thats a given loss..
ofcourse IF you get lategame dutch rule.. but their early gold costing villagers eco is so weak ottomand wipe them before you even hit age2..

only with germans due the many free units with each shipment was I able to somewhat counter the ottomans..

[Catalytic]

If it's the AI, Dutch and Brits are my absolute least favorite to play against. They both go FI. They both get massive economies and then spam falconets and anti-cav armies. It's incredibly frustrating to deal with. The falconets obliterate buildings and infantry, forcing you to deal with them. Bring culverins and the AI micros its falconets incredibly well, as well as spams out handful of cavalry that have an amazing ability to run past everything and instantly take out the culvs. So you try cavalry, and then they spam musks/halbs and sit them right on top of the artillery. Send in 20-25 cav and finally get a handful of them to stop walking in circles, wandering off, or ignoring your commands and attacking the halbs ripping them to shreds, and guess what? 3-4 artillery foundries are spamming more 5 at a time. They spawn and immediately wipe out huge chunks of your army. And with defender's advantage, they spawn rapidly while you have to respawn your losses and haul them often 2-3 minutes across the map to get to their town, giving them ample time to remax their population, refill their whole army, and rebuild whatever buildings you managed to take out. I've had some real long games against these two.

China may be worse simply because trying to get cavalry to target their hand cannons in waves of 20-25+ is a logistical nightmare. The AI seems to have an aversion to hitting them. You have to manually target each one and as soon as you kill one, order the cavalry unit that's trying to run off to go kill pikemen back off the damn pikes and back to the hand cannoneer at the literal bottom of his priority list. Watching them run off to go chase villagers or go smack a market is a real joy.

But yeah, vs humans, I can totally see why Ottomans top the list.

[Swalmy]

imo Dutch are the hardest to play against in the current state. They're not as good as say, Japan in TAD, but they're pretty close. It's very difficult to stop their FF, and their eco just scales so well. Late game their high unit pop is so effective, and their skirms are very stronk.

Ruyters have never been great, but per pop they're very effective.

[Dutchgamer1982]

Originally posted by Swalmy:

imo Dutch are the hardest to play against in the current state. They're not as good as say, Japan in TAD, but they're pretty close. It's very difficult to stop their FF, and their eco just scales so well. Late game their high unit pop is so effective, and their skirms are very stronk.

Ruyters have never been great, but per pop they're very effective.

LATE game dutch are indeed powerfull now which I like (it used to be the meme in the original AOE3.. that the only people playing as dutch in aoe3 are actual dutch.. for any sane player knows they are the worst faction)
-> the dutch always missed a musketeer unit which made them quite vulnarable..

they now have gotten so many buffs that lategame they are quite powerfull.. but that pay for that by being early game (and by that I mean the first 30-45 minutes of the game) extremely vulnarable to an early rush army..

gold mining goes a lot slower than food harvesting for villagers.. making the time to go 2d age much slower.. and giving enemies ample chance to rush an early army towards you.. banks? forget it.. you cannot spare the vills on wood to build them.. as you struggle hard to keep up with other peoples age up speed and early rush...

which is why ottoman as an very potent fast ageup early rush civ.. is so deadly to dutch players.
but it is far from the only one.

[James3157]

I like the U.S civilization overall especially if you are playing as them instead of them being AI even if they are broken. Also, I noticed if you play against the British at least on moderate difficulty skirmishes (although the AI seem to be a lot harder to play against on hard difficulty than moderate difficulty) they suck against the Iroquois (but its official name is different on AoE III: DE) and appear to be a weak civ. Maybe not weak as a human player (although them having longbowmen during this time period does seem odd), but as AI at least in part because they do not seem to be aggressive enough on moderate difficulty.

[Age of Nicius]

Best by far atm are ottoman, USA, Germany

[ABDERRAHIM]

Very beautiful game

[Martini Gentleman]

USA. AZTEC, GERMANY CLEAR TOP 3

[James3157]

Originally posted by Martini Gentleman:

USA. AZTEC, GERMANY CLEAR TOP 3

I disagree with Aztecs. They seem to be one of the hardest to play/weakest civs on skirmishes and multiplayer. Especially for late game where they are the weakest apparently.

[Dutchgamer1982]

Originally posted by James3157:

Originally posted by Martini Gentleman:

USA. AZTEC, GERMANY CLEAR TOP 3

I disagree with Aztecs. They seem to be one of the hardest to play/weakest civs on skirmishes and multiplayer. Especially for late game where they are the weakest apparently.

aztek good against AI due twice the amount of towers.. + only native faction that gets a fort.. but static defence vs humans.. aint working as well and aztek units kinda suck. + no cav so easier to hardcounter.

but you can with aztek turtle in your base.. than with the button pressed when already at full poplimit.. get like 500 pop in the field and hope it overwhelms the enemy that never can push their pop that high.

but just like dutch.. thats an extremely late game strategy and vs human oponents in 1v1 you be dead before you get there..

[Mehno]

besides USA, I would probably say Hausa and Ethiopia.

[James3157]

Originally posted by Mehno:

besides USA, I would probably say Hausa and Ethiopia.

I am surprised anyone would mention those civs besides USA (mainly because they are popular on multiplayer and seem like a strong civ but might be a little tricky in learning how to play as them). They may not necessarily be the weakest civs in the game, but they do seem difficult to learn how to play as well especially with Hausa and according to what I looked up online Hausa and Ethiopia do not seem to be popular on multiplayer either. Also, Hausa can get the English as an ally which are very useful, but that is really late game and is overall the least popular civ on multiplayer. If someone who plays as Hausa on a multiplayer game is inexperienced in playing as them they could lose more easily than the Germans for example which are more basic than Hausa and easier to learn how to play as them than Hausa.

[Mehno]

Originally posted by James3157:

Originally posted by Mehno:

besides USA, I would probably say Hausa and Ethiopia.

I am surprised anyone would mention those civs besides USA (mainly because they are popular on multiplayer and seem like a strong civ but might be a little tricky in learning how to play as them). They may not necessarily be the weakest civs in the game, but they do seem difficult to learn how to play as well especially with Hausa and according to what I looked up online Hausa and Ethiopia do not seem to be popular on multiplayer either. Also, Hausa can get the English as an ally which are very useful, but that is really late game and is overall the least popular civ on multiplayer. If someone who plays as Hausa on a multiplayer game is inexperienced in playing as them they could lose more easily than the Germans for example which are more basic than Hausa and easier to learn how to play as them than Hausa.

Honestly I think its kinda the same as with the Natives. Yeah they dont get played alot but if you cross a player that plays them alot or god forbid as their main you are in for a sweaty game. Also I think Hausa and Ethiopia are just not that well understood by most (including me) wich makes it extremely hard to deal with what feels like 50 units in min 6-7 in the case of Hausa.