A new revolution for the Russian Empire!

[ATAMAH]

Good day, comrades, after the appearance of a new addition that will bring us the United States, with a large number of states and a new system of revolution, I have an idea!
Why can't the Russian Empire, on the path of revolution, have real historical options? Namely, I would like to add an opportunity for the Russian Empire to transform into the USSR!
Many thanks to everyone who will support my idea!

[Space-Wolf]

I'm risking a r/woosh here, but the USSR didn't become a thing until after the First World War (the Great War) and Age of Empires III's era only ends just short of the Industrial Era. So it doesn't even hit the 1910s. However, if historical accuracy be damned, maybe someone can make a mod to replace one of the current revolutions with the glorious Leninite revolution!

[ATAMAH]

Originally posted by Space-Wolf:

I'm risking a r/woosh here, but the USSR didn't become a thing until after the First World War (the Great War) and Age of Empires III's era only ends just short of the Industrial Era. So it doesn't even hit the 1910s. However, if historical accuracy be damned, maybe someone can make a mod to replace one of the current revolutions with the glorious Leninite revolution!

In general, you are right, I would also very much like to see at least a similar mod for revolution for the Russian Empire.
Imagine how great Stalin and Lenin would look instead of pathfinder!)
Stalin could impose debuffs on enemy troops, and Lenin could impose buffs on his own!)

[Harris]

Originally posted by Space-Wolf:

Age of Empires III's era only ends just short of the Industrial Era. So it doesn't even hit the 1910s.

It's pretty hard to define Age of Empires III's era between Ivan the Terrible's (1547-1575) Russia and USA that features gatlings that didn't see action before 1870th.

Indeed, if Russia could evolve into USSR it would outclass any other civ with Mosin Nagant rifles, Maxim machine guns, artillery and what not.

[Billy Wintergreen]

20th century is far too late, that's essentially modern warfare

yes, the game has quite a broad span, basically 16-19th C, albeit less broad than AOE2. but it has to stop short at the 20th C, no question.

[ATAMAH]

Originally posted by Harris:

Originally posted by Space-Wolf:

Age of Empires III's era only ends just short of the Industrial Era. So it doesn't even hit the 1910s.

It's pretty hard to define Age of Empires III's era between Ivan the Terrible's (1547-1575) Russia and USA that features gatlings that didn't see action before 1870th.

Indeed, if Russia could evolve into USSR it would outclass any other civ with Mosin Nagant rifles, Maxim machine guns, artillery and what not.

I think it would be possible to keep the balance.
The main thing here is that it would look very cool and interesting.

[joaosantos92]

As much as playing with the USSR sounds exciting, there are two main issues:
1) The Russian Revolution only took place in the 20th century
2) The Revolution thing is about colonies revolting, not about political changes in the center of the empire. The same way there's no option to play as the French Republic.

[Dagordae]

Originally posted by ATAMAH:

Originally posted by Harris:

It's pretty hard to define Age of Empires III's era between Ivan the Terrible's (1547-1575) Russia and USA that features gatlings that didn't see action before 1870th.

Indeed, if Russia could evolve into USSR it would outclass any other civ with Mosin Nagant rifles, Maxim machine guns, artillery and what not.

I think it would be possible to keep the balance.
The main thing here is that it would look very cool and interesting.

No, the main thing is that it’s playable.

There’s no way to make a 20th century army balanced vs 18th-19th century. For ♥♥♥♥♥ sake, every army here still uses cannons.
Cannons.
And freaking muskets.

What, is only 1:10 of your trained troops going to be given a rifle? Not given ammo? Giving bizarrely anachronistic black powder weapons to everyone?

[Space-Wolf]

Originally posted by Dagordae:

Originally posted by ATAMAH:

I think it would be possible to keep the balance.
The main thing here is that it would look very cool and interesting.

No, the main thing is that it’s playable.

There’s no way to make a 20th century army balanced vs 18th-19th century. For ♥♥♥♥♥ sake, every army here still uses cannons.
Cannons.
And freaking muskets.

What, is only 1:10 of your trained troops going to be given a rifle? Not given ammo? Giving bizarrely anachronistic black powder weapons to everyone?

Grant it, we're also going by game logic. Did Monster Trucks exist during Colonization? No. Are they able to destroy an entire building in one go? No. They could do severe damage but the truck would also be damaged.

Just because we send in KGB with infinate AK-47's doesn't mean we cannot make them weak to a caveman's club in a video game.

[Hermóðr]

Piss off with your weeby communist fetish. This is a colonial era game not a ww1/ww2 game.

[Lost Latios]

Originally posted by Space-Wolf:

Originally posted by Dagordae:

No, the main thing is that it’s playable.

There’s no way to make a 20th century army balanced vs 18th-19th century. For ♥♥♥♥♥ sake, every army here still uses cannons.
Cannons.
And freaking muskets.

What, is only 1:10 of your trained troops going to be given a rifle? Not given ammo? Giving bizarrely anachronistic black powder weapons to everyone?

Grant it, we're also going by game logic. Did Monster Trucks exist during Colonization? No. Are they able to destroy an entire building in one go? No. They could do severe damage but the truck would also be damaged.

Just because we send in KGB with infinate AK-47's doesn't mean we cannot make them weak to a caveman's club in a video game.

The truck is a cheat, so unless the USSR is a cheat civ...

[riZn]

This is approaching Red Alert franchise territory, too far into the "future".

[ATAMAH]

just let's imagine that the revolution in Russia did not take place in 1917, but a little earlier.

[Space-Wolf]

Originally posted by Lost Latios:

Originally posted by Space-Wolf:

Grant it, we're also going by game logic. Did Monster Trucks exist during Colonization? No. Are they able to destroy an entire building in one go? No. They could do severe damage but the truck would also be damaged.

Just because we send in KGB with infinate AK-47's doesn't mean we cannot make them weak to a caveman's club in a video game.

The truck is a cheat, so unless the USSR is a cheat civ...

We're not asking for the devs to put one in. Possibly make it as a "not-serious" mod that replaces one of the Revolutions.

[Catalytic]

If you've got a communist fetish, then find a game that embraces that. There are plenty that'll happily let you fantasticize about being a communist "revolutionary." There's no place in Age 3 for that. It's way out of scope and doesn't fit at all.

Or better yet, put down the games and pick up a book. The Gulag Archipelago makes for some very enlightening Russian reading. If you're really wanting to RP, you can learn Russian in Duolingo and read the original instead of the translation for the true comrade experience.

[Buntkreuz]

Originally posted by ATAMAH:

Good day, comrades, after the appearance of a new addition that will bring us the United States, with a large number of states and a new system of revolution, I have an idea!
Why can't the Russian Empire, on the path of revolution, have real historical options? Namely, I would like to add an opportunity for the Russian Empire to transform into the USSR!

Uhhhh.... The UDSSR has nothing to do with a colonial revolution.
Such a revolution generally is a colony revolting against the core nation that it originates from.
What Russia needs for revolutions in AoE3 are colonies that turned into their own nations.

See, revolutions work this way:
Nation A sends people (settlers/colonists) to another area the country has no control over.
They found a colony for Nation A.
They build up the colony.
They start to believe that they can handle it themselves and dont want to be bothered by the original homecountry (Nation A) anymore and instead of regulary sending Nation A resources, want to keep it for themselves.
The colony decides to found a new nation (which is like upgrading a colony) and declares independency.
Declaring independency is synonymous for revolting.
Nation A possibly sends military to kill the revolution, the newly found Nation B (originally colony) creates its own military to fend them off.

Et voila, you now learned how all nations in America and some in Africa were created.
A brief summary on how revolutions in the Age of Colonization worked.
Claim land to be yours
Settle people there
Build infrastructure
Declare independency
Try hard to maintain independency

So back to your request.
To be able to create new revolutions for Russia, Russia needs colonies.
Which means, if Russia had colonies somewhere on earth in the timeframe AoE3 plays in and that colony turned into its own nation, then you can have a new Revolutionary Faction.
The UDSSR however, is not a colony revolting against russia.
UDSSR is a political idea and construct of Russia itself.
What you possibly confuse here is a structural revolution.

Now to that:
YES, Russia had colonies, plenty even. However, most didnt reach independency until after 1914 and later. Finland is one of those.
So thats too late.
Pretty much all their colonies were lost after that timeframe or are still under russian control.
So no new russian revolutions, because they never existed.



TLDR:
Russias colonies, which you need for revolutions in AoE3, were lost after the timeframe AoE3 palys in.
None of russias colonies revolted against russia before 1905.
Since AoE3 stops before 1900, there is no possibility for more russian revolutions.
Those that are already in the game arent accurate and seem to just be there to give Russia something.

If you want something russia focussed, maybe "Workers and Resources: Soviet Republic" is a game you should take a look at.