China nerfed into the ground

[Mahou Sensei]

took old han away only thing that made china good OP balancing

[Chrinchy]

I thought they kept the card in but gave the Old Han a slight decrease in HP and ATK from before, along with making them a bit cheaper too in and changed the name of it?

I never realised China depended so much on it though. I know they suffer a bit from cavalry but usually you can get British redcoats from the Embassy and I know with some cards you can train really good Iron Flails and Meteor Hammers.

[Tacitus Killgore]

What's old han?

[Storm Runner]

Originally posted by Tacitus Killgore:

What's old han?

it gave you age 5 units in age 4 and then age 6 in age 5 it basicly supercharged your pikes and bows

[Tacitus Killgore]

Originally posted by DBDstorm runner:

Originally posted by Tacitus Killgore:

What's old han?

it gave you age 5 units in age 4 and then age 6 in age 5 it basicly supercharged your pikes and bows

There's an age 6?

[Storm Runner]

no but its what an age 6 pike/bow would look like

[Mahou Sensei]

Originally posted by DBDstorm runner:

Originally posted by Tacitus Killgore:

What's old han?

it gave you age 5 units in age 4 and then age 6 in age 5 it basicly supercharged your pikes and bows

fyi it didnt give imp units
china has to play one age ahead to contest most civs wasn't changed so old han shouldn't have changed
also late game french still op but lets nerf china
btw china was already one of the hardest civs to play

[Age of Nicius]

No, China didnt got nerfed into the ground lmao.... You Just need to make more variety of units and not keep spamming 2 armies. Keshiks e.g. they are fine

[Mahou Sensei]

Originally posted by Nicius:

No, China didnt got nerfed into the ground lmao.... You Just need to make more variety of units and not keep spamming 2 armies. Keshiks e.g. they are fine

they did
hell i even removed the old han reform from my decks cause it's that bad

[Mahou Sensei]

Originally posted by Chrinchy:

I thought they kept the card in but gave the Old Han a slight decrease in HP and ATK from before, along with making them a bit cheaper too in and changed the name of it?

I never realised China depended so much on it though. I know they suffer a bit from cavalry but usually you can get British redcoats from the Embassy and I know with some cards you can train really good Iron Flails and Meteor Hammers.

It made it so you could use chu and Qi pik late game but now it's so bad i end up using 2 of the 5 different types that china can make

[Chrinchy]

Originally posted by MahouSensei:

Originally posted by Chrinchy:

I thought they kept the card in but gave the Old Han a slight decrease in HP and ATK from before, along with making them a bit cheaper too in and changed the name of it?

I never realised China depended so much on it though. I know they suffer a bit from cavalry but usually you can get British redcoats from the Embassy and I know with some cards you can train really good Iron Flails and Meteor Hammers.

It made it so you could use chu and Qi pik late game but now it's so bad i end up using 2 of the 5 different types that china can make

Hmm that's interesting...most of the games I've played against China I don't think I have seen them keep using the old han army, usually I see more cav, flamming arrows and Chinese skirmishers...oh and lots of British redcoats or Archers. But maybe that's because they had to use something else.

[TÂY SƠN - BÌNH ĐỊNH]

Good.

Now people will have to find new strategies to play with China.

In the old game, 8/10 team games with china end up favoring Old Han if the match drags on.

[Mahou Sensei]

Originally posted by Smug Mug:

Good.

Now people will have to find new strategies to play with China.

In the old game, 8/10 team games with china end up favoring Old Han if the match drags on.

Well, yeah they are weak for most the game very weak in age 2, okay in age 3, age 4 is the only time that they are strong which is very late game.

[Mahou Sensei]

Originally posted by Chrinchy:

Originally posted by MahouSensei:

It made it so you could use chu and Qi pik late game but now it's so bad i end up using 2 of the 5 different types that china can make

Hmm that's interesting...most of the games I've played against China I don't think I have seen them keep using the old han army, usually I see more cav, flamming arrows and Chinese skirmishers...oh and lots of British redcoats or Archers. But maybe that's because they had to use something else.

Im not talking about flame throwers and morts just army units late game you don't see old han because it really bad now
in original game old han could be used late game but cost was really high

[Chrinchy]

Originally posted by MahouSensei:

Originally posted by Chrinchy:

Hmm that's interesting...most of the games I've played against China I don't think I have seen them keep using the old han army, usually I see more cav, flamming arrows and Chinese skirmishers...oh and lots of British redcoats or Archers. But maybe that's because they had to use something else.

Im not talking about flame throwers and morts just army units late game you don't see old han because it really bad now
in original game old han could be used late game but cost was really high

I thought their other banner armies could be used late game too? I also thought they played out as the Asian version of Russia...able to mass cheap units quickly and in great quantity?

[CheesyRingHole]

China is so bad at countering mass cav late game , if you can get enough wood u can counter the cav however once u run out or low your gone, plus you chew through that wood fast as well