Do the AI drivers have personalities?

[nascarnik]

Title basically says it all. Was wondering if each driver had their own distinct personality to go with the teams distinct performance. For example does the Hamilton AI perform better than the Kubica AI when in equal equipment as they would in real life? Is Verstappen more aggressive than Bottas?

I ask this cause I use my teammate to calibrate my game difficulty and I feel like Kubica causes me to run a higher level than I really should be at. Judging by the performance chart or Williams is around 6th best ATM but the difference between 4th and 7th in performance is minimal and there's a decent gap on either side for the rest the teams. So accounting for track variance and no DNFS both me and Kubica should be finishing between 7th and 14th a good chunk of the time. And that falls in line for me. Through 4 races I've gotten 13th, 8th, 10th, and 7th. While Kubica has finished 18th, 16th, 14th, and 18th and I finish around 40-60 second ahead of him consistently.

So is the Kubica AI just trash or do I have the difficulty too low?

[Dreagon]

While I don't know about personalities, some AI's are better than others. I believe the Hamilton AI is the fastest but other than that I don't know. Oh, and Weber is really good. It would be cool if they had different levels of aggression or were good at different things.

But for seeing what difficulty to use I more or less use a tip I found on the internet somewhere. Put AI difficulty at 75 (but I doubt the specific number actually matters) and do the qualifying practice program. You should lower/raise the difficulty by 2 points for every tenth over or under the purple time. It seems to more or less work for me.

[Waggy]

I don't know how much of a personality they have but some AI are indeed better/worse than others. My Giovinazzi AI with the best car still couldn't win races and finished ~30 seconds behind me in the worst case. I'm not sure "good AI" can overcome a weaker car but weak AI doesn't benefit much from a great car.

[Keyboard Racer]

I'm modmaker and once made a mod with fully equal cars. When i tested qualify, then Hamilton and Verstappen was the best, Kubica and Stroll was worst with gap for a 1 - 1,5 sec. So AI definitely have personalities.

[nascarnik]

Originally posted by Keyboard Racer:

I'm modmaker and once made a mod with fully equal cars. When i tested qualify, then Hamilton and Verstappen was the best, Kubica and Stroll was worst with gap for a 1 - 1,5 sec. So AI definitely have personalities.

Cool. I was almost positive that they had personality but there was actually no concrete evidence i found that stated this. Me and my buddies noticed in our 18 league with equal cars that the same drivers tended to finish in the same general position over the course of the season. It does suck though getting the difficulty setting wrong for the track youre on and either finishing way above where you should be or lapping at the back of the back with a car capable of scoring points. Wish they had an adaptive difficulty thing that would take your cars performance and have you run a few laps in practice and adjust the AI to match your ability. For example if i ran a 1:35 at a track and you ran a 1:30 at a track in an identical car it would set my difficulty to 60 and yours to 100 (just throwing number out to get my point across). Cause I run a difficulty that ranges from 95 to 100 on easier tracks like austria down to 80 to 85 on tracks like Hungary. Always having to take the time to manage that is a real pain. Ill give what Dreagon said a try cause Kubica really isnt doing me any favors in that department apparently.

[Marcel Schade]

"Do the AI drivers have personalities?"

Wondering about SHODAN's driving style...

[itstimetorecover]

no they are just programmed to drive you off the road. its just happened to me at spa. they drive you off the road and dont get any time penalty. i just made the slightest contact with someone as lost two seconds. the game is woeful. No more F1 games for me.

[nascarnik]

Originally posted by itstimetorecover:

no they are just programmed to drive you off the road. its just happened to me at spa. they drive you off the road and dont get any time penalty. i just made the slightest contact with someone as lost two seconds. the game is woeful. No more F1 games for me.

Not sure what you're doing I hardly ever have issues with the AI in this game. I notice when I do online with buddies they can be a pain but in my career they seem to leave me plenty of room most the time.
I don't know if that discrepancy is due to the fact that we play with no damage online so the AI takes more liberties just like a human would knowing it can't get damaged. In the meantime I run realistic damage in my career so I'm thinking the AI takes into account running into me or others will most likely damage their car so they leave wider berths when around me.
Usually any problem I have with the AI after giving it some thought is actually caused by something I did. Was I rear ended into a corner? Probably cause I braked earlier than I should've. Was I sideswiped in a corner? I left the door open for them and they stuck their nose in there. Its my fault I tried turning into the space they then occupied. Spun out on a straightaway? Probably blocking too aggressively or I wasn't holding a straight line and i drifted into them as they tried to get by me.
Don't get me wrong the AI from time to time can really screw you but I've found that most times it was my fault in the end. Doesn't make me feel better in the moment but that's the truth. And in fact I like the AI relative to most other racing games cause they actually respond to you. If I cut one off in the corner they hit the brakes. If I get a bad run off a corner they slow down or go around me. They don't just run me over as if I wasn't there.

[Dreagon]

Originally posted by nascarnik:

Originally posted by itstimetorecover:

no they are just programmed to drive you off the road. its just happened to me at spa. they drive you off the road and dont get any time penalty. i just made the slightest contact with someone as lost two seconds. the game is woeful. No more F1 games for me.

Not sure what you're doing I hardly ever have issues with the AI in this game. I notice when I do online with buddies they can be a pain but in my career they seem to leave me plenty of room most the time.
I don't know if that discrepancy is due to the fact that we play with no damage online so the AI takes more liberties just like a human would knowing it can't get damaged. In the meantime I run realistic damage in my career so I'm thinking the AI takes into account running into me or others will most likely damage their car so they leave wider berths when around me.
Usually any problem I have with the AI after giving it some thought is actually caused by something I did. Was I rear ended into a corner? Probably cause I braked earlier than I should've. Was I sideswiped in a corner? I left the door open for them and they stuck their nose in there. Its my fault I tried turning into the space they then occupied. Spun out on a straightaway? Probably blocking too aggressively or I wasn't holding a straight line and i drifted into them as they tried to get by me.
Don't get me wrong the AI from time to time can really screw you but I've found that most times it was my fault in the end. Doesn't make me feel better in the moment but that's the truth. And in fact I like the AI relative to most other racing games cause they actually respond to you. If I cut one off in the corner they hit the brakes. If I get a bad run off a corner they slow down or go around me. They don't just run me over as if I wasn't there.

The AI does steer in very early giving you no space unless you have about 3/4 of your car next to them.

[TommyEV]

As others have said, some drivers are clearly faster than others. Kubika is quite bad. I was on my Williams getting points consistently and he would still be last. As soon as he got replaced by Norris (which is probably nowhere near the best ones), he started getting points too.

I'm also wondering if they have "different personalities" in terms of style, being more or less agressive and such, not just being faster or slower.

[Xtc]

I think there are actually personalities. I play 2018f1, so idk bout 19, but if in 2018 i see different parts of behavior from the bots, i can see that in 2019 that being a thing too.
I was on practice, and magnusen was ahead of me (im on ferrari atm so the car gap is quite obvious) and magnusen being a hated driver and a dirty one too if i may say so, irl, i found it pretty acurate when he was weaving all over the track just to not let me past.

Was doing a training program, and on the end of first lap i catch him around the corner, then proceeded to do the next 2 laps with that ♥♥♥♥♥♥ on my nose weaving all around the track not letting me by even tho i was considerably faster, but cause on practice drs is free, there was no way i was overtaking him in a straight, and corners around mx hernandez brothers track are so low speed that i cant pass him without getting penalized.

Also i noticed that most of the top tier bots, sutch as hamilton vettel kimi or ricciardo are cleaner overall, and if u are faster than them even on race, they will conceed the position and try to deal with it and actually chase u around.

Keyboard player (yes, also poor) so 100% ai is kinda my limit atm.