So is Niko...

[TurboTired]

...an XX or XY?

[Cheese]

Originally posted by Chopper Dave:

Kirby not even a humanoid. Point irrelevant.

No, the point isn't irrelevant because you don't like the specific example I offered.
Make an argument for why an ambiguous fictional character must be male or female, or you're haven't touched the point at all.

Do you really not understand that it's a fictional character created by someone?
If the creator doesn't have a specific sex in mind for the character because they don't care, or more likely, are intentionally making it ambiguous, then you can't reasonably decide they must be male or female because the answer is very likely that there just isn't an answer.

[Lady Dormouse]

Originally posted by Chopper Dave:

Originally posted by Lady Dormouse:

It is an utterly irrelevant question.

It is adequate question. Most of the time you can identify character sex from first look or at least chose it (that's works even for robotic or furry characters). And now we have Niko. It's a human being but you can't say if that a boy or girl. That's kinda novelty.

No, it is still a truly irrelevant question.

Maybe you should learn to live with the idea of ambiguity.

If you cannot, well, a great deal of art, painting to theater, genre fiction to great literature, even movies and, yes, games. (Lots of games are art, heck, I'd even hazard that every game is art in its own way.)

[Skyclad Observer]

Originally posted by Cheese:

Originally posted by Chopper Dave:

Kirby not even a humanoid. Point irrelevant.

No, the point isn't irrelevant because you don't like the specific example I offered.
Make an argument for why an ambiguous fictional character must be male or female, or you're haven't touched the point at all.

Do you really not understand that it's a fictional character created by someone?
If the creator doesn't have a specific sex in mind for the character because they don't care, or more likely, are intentionally making it ambiguous, then you can't reasonably decide they must be male or female because the answer is very likely that there just isn't an answer.

If a fictional character is Human, which Niko seems to be, it's safe to assume they are either male or female even if the creator didn't give any answer, since that's how humans normally work even in fiction. Hell even non-humans tend to be male or female. But I do think it's intentionally left ambiguous in this case, so people can go with whatever they want Niko to be.

[Jagdpanther-88]

Is the most commented thread really just people arguing over a video game characters gender. Get a life guys. This is just grim.

[Chopper Dave]

Originally posted by Somehwat Leon Trotsky:

Is the most commented thread really just people arguing over a video game characters gender. Get a life guys. This is just grim.

Why not? Arguing over small things never gets old.

[Cheese]

Originally posted by Somehwat Leon Trotsky:

Is the most commented thread really just people arguing over a video game characters gender. Get a life guys. This is just grim.

Are you actually surprised that the troll thread centered around a somewhat controversial subject has a lot of comments?

Also, the thread had 18 comments, an equal amount to another thread, until you came in, posted this, and then got two replies.

[Artificial Radiance --]

Originally posted by Chopper Dave:

Originally posted by Lady Dormouse:

It is an utterly irrelevant question.

It is adequate question. Most of the time you can identify character sex from first look or at least chose it (that's works even for robotic or furry characters). And now we have Niko. It's a human being but you can't say if that a boy or girl. That's kinda novelty.

1. No you can't. There are numbers of people that, upon first glance, you cannot tell their sex. Your example of robots don't even have a sex, they just utilize varying pronouns that we equate to male, female, or otherwise, and with furries that depends on the art style. Even in this game, with majority furry characters, we can't assume unless we have enough evidence to suggest their gender. We don't know Niko's sex or gender, all we know is they use they/them pronouns, which is told to us by the devs, so many will assume they are under the nonbinary umbrella, which is the best we can do given their entirely androgynous appearance.

2. You calling Niko an "it" in this statement comes off as rude and offensive. I have nothing against people who do actually use and prefer it/its pronouns, but using them to refer to someone just because you don't know their sex is dehumanizing. It's not something you should make a habit of, even when referring to a fictional character in a videogame.

3. The use of the term novelty is not what I would use, but it's great we have a main character that is implied to be nonbinary. It's nothing too new in the indie game world, a good number of main and side characters in popular indie games [the first one that comes to mind being Hollow Knight] are agender or nonbinary.