They killed Speedrunners = Dead game

[Drive]

Welcome to Evolve 2.0 lol

[phlux]

Publicado originalmente por megas:

I was thinking about why so many in the radical left participate in "speedrunning"

The reason is the left's lack of work ethic ('go fast' rather than 'do it right') and, in a Petersonian sense, to elevate alternative sexual archetypes in the marketplace ('fastest mario') Obviously, there are exceptions to this and some people more in the center or right also "speedrun". However, they more than sufficient to prove the rule, rather than contrast it. Consider how woke GDQ has been, almost since the very beginning. Your eyes will start to open. Returning to the topic of the work ethic... A "speedrunner" may well spend hours a day at their craft, but this is ultimately a meaningless exercise, since they will ultimately accomplish exactly that which is done in less collective time by a casual player.
This is thus a waste of effort on the behalf of the "speedrunner". Put more simply, they are spending their work effort on something that someone else has already done (and done in a way deemed 'correct' by the creator of the artwork). Why do they do this? The answer is quite obvious if you think about it. The goal is the illusion of speed and the desire (SUBCONSCIOUS) to promote radical leftist, borderline Communist ideals of how easy work is. Everyone always says that "speedruns" look easy. That is part of the aesthetic. Think about the phrase "fully automated luxury Communism" in the context of "speedrunning" and I strongly suspect that things will start to 'click' in your mind. What happens to the individual in this? Individual accomplishment in "speedrunning" is simply waiting for another person to steal your techniques in order to defeat you. Where is something like "intellectual property" or "patent" in this necessarily communitarian process? Now, as to the sexual archetype model and 'speedrunning' generally... If you have any passing familiarity with Jordan Peterson's broader oeuvre and of Jungian psychology, you likely already know where I am going with this.
However, I will say more for the uninitiated.

Keep this passage from Maps of Meaning (91) in mind:

"The Archetypal Son... continually reconstructs defined territory, as a consequence of the 'assimilation' of the unknown [as a consequence of 'incestuous' (that is, 'sexual' – read creative) union with the Great Mother]"

In other words, there is a connection between 'sexuality' and creativity that we see throughout time (as Peterson points out with Tiamat and other examples). In the sexual marketplace, which archetypes are simultaneously deemed the most creative and valued the highest? The answer is obviously entrepreneurs like Elon Musk and others. Given that we evolved and each thing we do must have an evolutionary purpose (OR CAUSE), what archetype is the 'speedrunner' engaged in, who is accomplishing nothing new? They are aiming to make a new sexual archetype, based upon 'speed' rather than 'doing things right' and refuse ownership of what few innovations they can provide to their own scene, denying creativity within their very own sexual archetype. This is necessarily leftist. The obvious protest to this would be the 'glitchless 100% run', which in many ways does aim to play the game 'as intended' but seems to simply add the element of 'speed' to the equation. This objection is ultimately meaningless when one considers how long a game is intended to be played, in net, by the creators, even when under '100%' conditions. There is still time and effort wasted for no reason other than the ones I proposed above.
By now, I am sure that I have bothered a number of you and rustled quite a few of your feathers. I am not saying that 'speedrunning' is bad, but rather that, thinking about the topic philosophically, there are dangerous elements within it.

xD you guys are the best, seeing politics everywhere.

[Cranky]

Publicado originalmente por megas:

I was thinking about why so many in the radical left participate in "speedrunning"

The reason is the left's lack of work ethic ('go fast' rather than 'do it right') and, in a Petersonian sense, to elevate alternative sexual archetypes in the marketplace ('fastest mario') Obviously, there are exceptions to this and some people more in the center or right also "speedrun". However, they more than sufficient to prove the rule, rather than contrast it. Consider how woke GDQ has been, almost since the very beginning. Your eyes will start to open. Returning to the topic of the work ethic... A "speedrunner" may well spend hours a day at their craft, but this is ultimately a meaningless exercise, since they will ultimately accomplish exactly that which is done in less collective time by a casual player.
This is thus a waste of effort on the behalf of the "speedrunner". Put more simply, they are spending their work effort on something that someone else has already done (and done in a way deemed 'correct' by the creator of the artwork). Why do they do this? The answer is quite obvious if you think about it. The goal is the illusion of speed and the desire (SUBCONSCIOUS) to promote radical leftist, borderline Communist ideals of how easy work is. Everyone always says that "speedruns" look easy. That is part of the aesthetic. Think about the phrase "fully automated luxury Communism" in the context of "speedrunning" and I strongly suspect that things will start to 'click' in your mind. What happens to the individual in this? Individual accomplishment in "speedrunning" is simply waiting for another person to steal your techniques in order to defeat you. Where is something like "intellectual property" or "patent" in this necessarily communitarian process? Now, as to the sexual archetype model and 'speedrunning' generally... If you have any passing familiarity with Jordan Peterson's broader oeuvre and of Jungian psychology, you likely already know where I am going with this.
However, I will say more for the uninitiated.

Keep this passage from Maps of Meaning (91) in mind:

"The Archetypal Son... continually reconstructs defined territory, as a consequence of the 'assimilation' of the unknown [as a consequence of 'incestuous' (that is, 'sexual' – read creative) union with the Great Mother]"

In other words, there is a connection between 'sexuality' and creativity that we see throughout time (as Peterson points out with Tiamat and other examples). In the sexual marketplace, which archetypes are simultaneously deemed the most creative and valued the highest? The answer is obviously entrepreneurs like Elon Musk and others. Given that we evolved and each thing we do must have an evolutionary purpose (OR CAUSE), what archetype is the 'speedrunner' engaged in, who is accomplishing nothing new? They are aiming to make a new sexual archetype, based upon 'speed' rather than 'doing things right' and refuse ownership of what few innovations they can provide to their own scene, denying creativity within their very own sexual archetype. This is necessarily leftist. The obvious protest to this would be the 'glitchless 100% run', which in many ways does aim to play the game 'as intended' but seems to simply add the element of 'speed' to the equation. This objection is ultimately meaningless when one considers how long a game is intended to be played, in net, by the creators, even when under '100%' conditions. There is still time and effort wasted for no reason other than the ones I proposed above.
By now, I am sure that I have bothered a number of you and rustled quite a few of your feathers. I am not saying that 'speedrunning' is bad, but rather that, thinking about the topic philosophically, there are dangerous elements within it.

So, a few things:

a) http://www.wisdomofpeterson.com/
b) You don't know what 'communism' is, and you're just propping up a strawman version of what -you- think communism is.
c) This is pointless sophistry and word salad. I don't know if anyone's ever told you this, but emulating Jordan Peterson isn't a good look. There's a reason why nobody takes him seriously on all matters philosophy or in psychology.
d) You lack the credentials to be psychoanalysing anyone.

All you've done is engaged in logical fallacies. This gibberish isn't worth a rebuttal, because you have no argument, nor does Peterson.

[ADarkRaccoon]

I keep speedrunning and it's fuin

[Cranky]

Publicado originalmente por ADarkRaccoon:

I keep speedrunning and it's fuin

Indeed it is. Just have to exercise a bit more caution and learn when to slow down.

[Valerie]

Publicado originalmente por Sykkuno:

Welcome to Evolve 2.0 lol

If you're enjoyment came from abusing the exploits of the game instead of the core game, then it's clear this game isn't for you.

[tipu]

How do the speedrunners speedrun maps like Handy Man or T-5?

[Benjamin]

Publicado originalmente por tipu:

How do the speedrunners speedrun maps like Handy Man or T-5?

You can speedrun anything. Speedrunning just refers to competitively beating a game in as short a time as possible.

[Pocahawtness]

How to avoid playing a game. Run past all the enemies.

[Cranky]

Publicado originalmente por vsatyk:

I swear people who speed run probably can't even run a mile in real life. They are the worst kind of people in this game even more so than noobs.

I speedrun a lot of games. I do quite a fair bit of cardio and jog for 45 minutes - an hour a day, if conditions provide. I'm quite proficient at what I do.

[YMD]

Publicado originalmente por Treasure Eater:

I speedrun a lot of games. I do quite a fair bit of cardio and jog for 45 minutes - an hour a day, if conditions provide. I'm quite proficient at what I do.

why do you need to play a running simulator then?

[Cranky]

Publicado originalmente por ̀͠͏̡Sea-Chicken ✓:

Publicado originalmente por Treasure Eater:

I speedrun a lot of games. I do quite a fair bit of cardio and jog for 45 minutes - an hour a day, if conditions provide. I'm quite proficient at what I do.

why do you need to play a running simulator then?

Because I find it stimulating to complete games as quickly as possible? I play the maps over and over and over and learn every item spawn, every good spot to sit during hordes, etc.

I can slow-burn and speedrun. Variety is the spice of life.

[BRUTAL BUNDY]

Are they also speedrunning with their GF??

[Hex: Cuse Me]

Publicado originalmente por ｢C❤️A｣ Pocahawtness:

How to avoid playing a game. Run past all the enemies.

[Benjamin]

Publicado originalmente por vsatyk:

I swear people who speed run probably can't even run a mile in real life. They are the worst kind of people in this game even more so than noobs.

Why?

[Terotrous]

Was playing with a good speedrunner a couple days ago. They actually communicated and clearly knew the game and everything and weren't just obnoxious. We were in chapter 4, and it worked pretty well in 4-1. By running ahead, the speedrunner was able to pull a lot of enemies away, and because of the spawn limits, this allowed us to get through the first stage fairly painlessly. However, 4-2 and especially 4-3 are quite anti-speedrunning, 4-2 has the church section at the end where you have to board up and have almost no space to move around, and 4-3 has the house section in the middle where you basically have no space, so it was actively a hindrance there.

In that sense, I guess speedrunning is probably mostly balanced now. It completely obliterates some stages, but it also requires substantial deck investment and is weak on other stages.