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Chrille 🎃 Sep 16, 2021 @ 10:27pm
Online only?
Is there going to be an offline mode or is it plagued with online only?
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Mara Jadewind Sep 17, 2021 @ 12:13am 
It required internet connection all time to play B4B
Oni Sep 17, 2021 @ 6:51am 
And when the servers shut down you'll be left with a $100+ menu screen.
Ki11s0n3 Sep 17, 2021 @ 7:00am 
Only probably at launch. The Devs said they plan on adding in offline mode.
mupheminsani Sep 17, 2021 @ 8:13am 
Originally posted by Ki11s0n3:
Only probably at launch. The Devs said they plan on adding in offline mode.
that good news, then again they gotta adjust their cleaner AI :)
Ki11s0n3 Sep 17, 2021 @ 8:22am 
Originally posted by mupheminsani:
Originally posted by Ki11s0n3:
Only probably at launch. The Devs said they plan on adding in offline mode.
that good news, then again they gotta adjust their cleaner AI :)
Yeah I'm sure the AI will get better. L4D's was just as bad at launch as well.
Oni Sep 17, 2021 @ 12:24pm 
The AI and bugs are easy enough to fix, those are pretty minor issues imo.
Last edited by Oni; Sep 17, 2021 @ 3:01pm
Strelok Sep 20, 2021 @ 3:52am 
Originally posted by Ki11s0n3:
Only probably at launch. The Devs said they plan on adding in offline mode.

No, they actually said they're "investigating the possibility" of adding an offline mode. That's code speak for "we'll wait to tell you NO, until after we get your money".

No promises were made.

There's no measure that's more anti-consumer than "always online" . "Always online" locks the user base out of the game completely if there are any issues with the servers or the user's connection.

It's just a glorified form of rental and a remote kill switch at the core of the game.

Don't support "always online" games.
Last edited by Strelok; Sep 20, 2021 @ 3:52am
Chrille 🎃 Sep 20, 2021 @ 3:58am 
Originally posted by Strelok:
Originally posted by Ki11s0n3:
Only probably at launch. The Devs said they plan on adding in offline mode.

No, they actually said they're "investigating the possibility" of adding an offline mode. That's code speak for "we'll wait to tell you NO, until after we get your money".

No promises were made.

There's no measure that's more anti-consumer than "always online" . "Always online" locks the user base out of the game completely if there are any issues with the servers or the user's connection.

It's just a glorified form of rental and a remote kill switch at the core of the game.

Don't support "always online" games.
Agree.
Strelok Sep 30, 2021 @ 4:38am 
Originally posted by 紅蓮:
yeah, just like ubisoft doing the same thing on Ghost recon : breakpoint.

untill now(2 years passed), ubisoft still do nothing with offline mode, why ?

becaude they already got your money :steamfacepalm:

Exactly. It would be detrimental to sales in the initial launch window to outright declare no offline mode is possible.

This is the reason why they didn't promise offline mode outright and they're instead "investigating the possibility" :).

Once you behave like a good little money bag and give them the cash the results of their "investigation" will be that no offline support is possible. The old bait and switch.

Again, there's absolutely no measure that is more anti-consumer than "always online". Not even Denuvo. At least Denuvo doesn't lock you out of the game completely if the servers are overcrowded.

Mind you that probably most of these deeply anti-consumer decisions (always online, no workshop support, microtransactions, high price) are driven by the extremely greedy publisher, not by the development team. It's important to make that distinction.
Last edited by Strelok; Sep 30, 2021 @ 4:42am
Oni Sep 30, 2021 @ 7:40am 
Alot of the same decisions were made with Evolve and that had a different publisher, and even if it is the publisher making these poor decisions the devs chose to have a publisher and which one.
NeloDante Sep 30, 2021 @ 9:47am 
Originally posted by Oni:
Alot of the same decisions were made with Evolve and that had a different publisher, and even if it is the publisher making these poor decisions the devs chose to have a publisher and which one.

Exactly. You could be fooled ONCE by Evolve and maybe blame 2K. But when you see what they're doing with B4B, it's entirely TRS fault and you can tell that Evolve was their mistake, not only the publisher.
Strelok Oct 4, 2021 @ 5:48am 
I was surprised to see they added Denuvo to the game which doesn't really make sense if it will be an online only game.

Maybe they've changed their minds about offline support and will actually include it ?

I don't mind denuvo as much as I mind crappy "always online" stuff that locks users out of the game when the servers are hammered. There absolutely nothing worse in a game than online only requirements for playing solo.
NeloDante Oct 4, 2021 @ 6:40am 
Originally posted by Strelok:
I was surprised to see they added Denuvo to the game which doesn't really make sense if it will be an online only game.

Maybe they've changed their minds about offline support and will actually include it ?

I don't mind denuvo as much as I mind crappy "always online" stuff that locks users out of the game when the servers are hammered. There absolutely nothing worse in a game than online only requirements for playing solo.

You still require to be online for Denuvo to work mate. If it works at all.
Strelok Oct 7, 2021 @ 3:01am 
Originally posted by NeloDante:
Originally posted by Strelok:
I was surprised to see they added Denuvo to the game which doesn't really make sense if it will be an online only game.

Maybe they've changed their minds about offline support and will actually include it ?

I don't mind denuvo as much as I mind crappy "always online" stuff that locks users out of the game when the servers are hammered. There absolutely nothing worse in a game than online only requirements for playing solo.

You still require to be online for Denuvo to work mate. If it works at all.

Correct but if it had an offline mode and only Denuvo, the online activation of Denuvo is much less frequent.

Depending on the title, weeks can pass until a new Denuvo activation is required. I'm not defending Denuvo, don't get me wrong.

But at least it doesn't lock you out of the game if the servers are offline or overwhelmed.

Anyway if they reconsider and add offline support I'll buy the game. If not, I'll definitely skip it.
Originally posted by Strelok:
Originally posted by Ki11s0n3:
Only probably at launch. The Devs said they plan on adding in offline mode.

No, they actually said they're "investigating the possibility" of adding an offline mode. That's code speak for "we'll wait to tell you NO, until after we get your money".

No promises were made.

There's no measure that's more anti-consumer than "always online" . "Always online" locks the user base out of the game completely if there are any issues with the servers or the user's connection.

It's just a glorified form of rental and a remote kill switch at the core of the game.

Don't support "always online" games.

Can you name any good online games that came out in the last 2-3 years that isn't always on?

Im totally against that as well but if you look at the gaming market there aren't many games to play if you boycott all always on games.

Saying this, 99,9% of all singleplayer games don't catch my interest I want to play with friends or make new ones. If I want to talk to dumb ai's without feedback I would be sitting on Twitter.
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