Endless respawning zombies sucks

[BANE]

This is a stupid way to make a survival horror game and it kills all the immersion, are they breeding or cloning themselves or what?

[Bathtub Shitter]

Wel in that case, scratch l4d off the list of immersive games for me, because that's essentially where the idea came from. Levels like Dark Carn and Dead Air have quite a few endless hordes.

Gauntlet crescendo event.

[Guzma]

For you..

[DrunkBunny94]

If there isnt a constant threat of danger from either specials or timer hordes or an infinite horde for events then theres no tension/immersion because you are safe, if you want to be safe then stay in the saferoom.

The whole point of having a constant stream of enemies is to add some urgency, you have to think on your feet, you are forced to do the objs, if you are being greedy and slow down too much then you are punished by having to fight more stuff.

Lore wise though the USA has what like 350 million people so probably coming from that.

[Hyluxiao]

Originally posted by DrunkBunny94:

If there isnt a constant threat of danger from either specials or timer hordes or an infinite horde for events then theres no tension/immersion because you are safe, if you want to be safe then stay in the saferoom.

The whole point of having a constant stream of enemies is to add some urgency, you have to think on your feet, you are forced to do the objs, if you are being greedy and slow down too much then you are punished by having to fight more stuff.

Lore wise though the USA has what like 350 million people so probably coming from that.

agreed, stay present

[BANE]

You just cant fit billions of ppl into area less than a few meters every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ time, it makes no sense. If they wanted it this way, they should make some portals or hives, and players should be able to push to the portals to destroy it. If the game is not logical then all the horror thing goes away for me.

Also they reset the map every time you look away, like you killed some zombies, you look other way, and here you have yet again zombies on the area that you cleared one second ago, it just suxx.

[MommaBee]

imagine trying to apply logic to a video game lmao

[Not Mischief]

they literally are moron thats why there are hives

[BANE]

Originally posted by MommaBee:

imagine trying to apply logic to a video game lmao

sim games - exist, noob.

Originally posted by Black Frost (Real):

they literally are moron thats why there are hives

But they are not coming from hives moron, they are teleporting, I guess it doesn't bother ppl with low iq.

[TheSpawacz]

100% agree, they spawn literally behind you non stop even in close rooms that you cleared 2s ago

[Heretic]

You need to suspend your disbelief. Unfortunately computer hardware still just isn't at the level it needs to be to accurately populate the environments with the level of Ridden that you end up killing in a game. Just like L4D 1 and 2 with its z_common_limit 30, there is a limit to how many active spawns there are at any given time. To get around this developers have been using the art of spawning the entities just outside your field of view(hopefully). Its not perfect but it works as intended for the most part.

I'm with you 100% though, it would be absolutely cool AF if there were 10,000+ active spawns methodically closing distance on you the second the Ridden calls down a horde, and you could see them all over the map climbing over walls, busting down doors and ripping their way out of the blood tumours to track you down.

Sadly I think we will be waiting a long time for that as the vast majority of hardware that people play on was top-tier tech from 5 years ago at best and thats being generous. Maybe by the 2050s we will have some beefy enough hardware for developers to make a game like I described.

[[{******---Dead4Life---******}]]

Imagine playing back 4 blood instead of left 4 dead 2

[^9[DSS]Dahaka]

Originally posted by Heretic:

You need to suspend your disbelief. Unfortunately computer hardware still just isn't at the level it needs to be to accurately populate the environments with the level of Ridden that you end up killing in a game. Just like L4D 1 and 2 with its z_common_limit 30, there is a limit to how many active spawns there are at any given time. To get around this developers have been using the art of spawning the entities just outside your field of view(hopefully). Its not perfect but it works as intended for the most part.

I'm with you 100% though, it would be absolutely cool AF if there were 10,000+ active spawns methodically closing distance on you the second the Ridden calls down a horde, and you could see them all over the map climbing over walls, busting down doors and ripping their way out of the blood tumours to track you down.

Sadly I think we will be waiting a long time for that as the vast majority of hardware that people play on was top-tier tech from 5 years ago at best and thats being generous. Maybe by the 2050s we will have some beefy enough hardware for developers to make a game like I described.

Thats because TRS are incompetent devs, and because L4D2 is 13 years old and designed to run on potato PCs. Just look at WWZ, hundreds if not thousands of zombies on your screen at a given time. And no FPS drops or issues even on my 6 year old laptop.

Originally posted by BANE:

This is a stupid way to make a survival horror game and it kills all the immersion, are they breeding or cloning themselves or what?

So you don't mind that weapons have magical "qualities", you dont mind literal MAGIC weapons and attachments, you dont mind hulking 20 meter tall enemies, or the game environment littered with bright orange loot boxes every 10 meters or so, but your immersion is ruined because, what? 2-3 maps have an infinite horde? Come on dude.

[Bathtub Shitter]

Originally posted by Dead4Life The Original One:

Imagine playing back 4 blood instead of left 4 dead 2

Can't play that game either. It's unrealistic.

[Knee]

Originally posted by 𝔒𝔤𝔯𝔦𝔪:

Originally posted by Dead4Life The Original One:

Imagine playing back 4 blood instead of left 4 dead 2

Can't play that game either. It's unrealistic.

Can't stand the hardly-functional hitboxes as well

[[{******---Dead4Life---******}]]

Originally posted by 𝔒𝔤𝔯𝔦𝔪:

Originally posted by Dead4Life The Original One:

Imagine playing back 4 blood instead of left 4 dead 2

Can't play that game either. It's unrealistic.

I mean yeah, most coop games have endless respawn enemies.