B4B is NOT dead.

[One-HiT KiLLeR]

No more updates doesn't mean the game is dead. It's still fun to play and have enough players (4 000+ on steam right now), with crossplay enabled it's even better.

Many old games don't get any updates too, but are still played. So it's still worth it at sale price.

[Mirror System X]

Yeah. Kind of. Especially I agree with those:

Originally posted by One-HiT KiLLeR:

fun to play and have enough players

Originally posted by One-HiT KiLLeR:

it's still worth it at sale price.

However, about that:

Originally posted by One-HiT KiLLeR:

with crossplay enabled it's even better

I'd mostly disagree, since I am not a masochist. I often can't chill there at all and even on veteran/rec I get forced to bring melee & weakspot-heavy decks, so I just keep it turned off.
(I mostly dislike speedrun decks)
I don't even want to think about NM & No Hope there. The 1st has been lucky once tho.

Anyway, you can also check out the Annual Pass. I thought what they say about it barely being played 's true, but the recent days I got into some Act 5 & 6 games pretty instantly.

[Heretic]

I've played 1.2k hours(with crossplay enabled) and the last 400 hours with mostly crossplay players and I've only used a support deck and primarily played Nightmare. Like everything in life, the best way to be good, is to do.

Of course its easier when you can save runs with continue cards, but what most players lack in B4B is copper, slots and lives. Those three things generally rule the outcome of a playthrough and significantly impact how fast and how well you can snowball through a run.

Only No Hope is over tuned these days, but I'm sure even that is manageable(to people that know how to play) without DPS cards(especially if you can totem burn your main weapon to purple asap), although I wouldn't know for sure because I don't waste my time there. Nightmare is enough of a challenge with speedvangelos and I-don't-know-there-is-a-melee-shove-DPS Jims.

Anyway, the game isn't dead, never was and won't be for a few years.

[Mirror System X]

Originally posted by Heretic:

with crossplay enabled

Masochism. It's everyone's choice though. Recruit & vet can randomly be playable. NM and No hope? Only if with a special premade team. I prefer it off for life. No players at the time? Another Steam game or offline.

Originally posted by Heretic:

continue cards

Masochism. I almost never use them. Least useful card in B4B. Nothing to praise it for.
I wonder why ppl are often so keen on using life cards. Try not to die on the 1st place pls ty.
Copper is important until an act moment, after that it can easily turn into money for nothing.
Slots well, in act 3 you'd better have 2+ offensive slots and in act 4 at least 4x, that's all. Else is just abundance. Some legendary items don't care about slots if you find some.

Originally posted by Heretic:

without DPS cards(especially if you can totem burn your main weapon to purple asap)

Masochism. There are maps that can easily eiliminate low dps on the top of it. Totem burning the weapons? With such scarce cards of this type I rarely go for it, unless I am in test mode. Also act 4 in the harder difficulties is very pretentious and will not accept most unstable tactics. It can even eliminate minor weaknesses at lower difficulties.

Originally posted by Heretic:

Anyway, the game isn't dead, never was and won't be for a few years.

yes

[Reggae Sauce]

cope

[Lucinja]

i don't have problems matching.

[Mirror System X]

Originally posted by Lucinja:

i don't have problems matching.

[Budbro]

The number of people playing doesn't matter, only the number of people buying it. You can bet the servers will be toast when that dries up.

[Serious]

a game is dead is almost always nonsense.
There are even people out there who think a singleplayer game could be dead?... what's impossible.
And as you can play with your team only and in singleplayer, b4b won't die either.

Same for game is finished or abandoned thinking.
It's the devs decision, not a customer decision when a product is finished.
It's the customer decision if they want to pay """€ for """Content and quality.

But well, that's "gamers" in 2024, no wonder many new games lack quality,... the devs addapt to the quality of their customers.

[Terron]

Agreed. Great game.

[Clockeye]

Originally posted by One-HiT KiLLeR:

No more updates doesn't mean the game is dead. It's still fun to play and have enough players (4 000+ on steam right now), with crossplay enabled it's even better.

Many old games don't get any updates too, but are still played. So it's still worth it at sale price.

4000? Never seen it past 2, let alone 3000.

[meat beat mania]

less than 2k player avg yikes turtle rock dumped the game hard cant blame em

[Novak]

Originally posted by meat beat mania:

less than 2k player avg yikes turtle rock dumped the game hard cant blame em

1 out of 10 players are on pc and steam so you are looking at 20000 players active on crossplay daily ,turtle rock will never recover from there actions nice try though this game will be played on steam more an more as the price is reduced

[meat beat mania]

Originally posted by RezKid↠:

Originally posted by meat beat mania:

less than 2k player avg yikes turtle rock dumped the game hard cant blame em

1 out of 10 players are on pc and steam so you are looking at 20000 players active on crossplay daily ,turtle rock will never recover from there actions nice try though this game will be played on steam more an more as the price is reduced

dog im purely looking at steam numbers even with crossplay i highly doubt its as much as your saying tbh im just waiting for the servers to be shutdown cant be too long till they announce it

[Reeva!]

Originally posted by Clockeye:

Originally posted by One-HiT KiLLeR:

No more updates doesn't mean the game is dead. It's still fun to play and have enough players (4 000+ on steam right now), with crossplay enabled it's even better.

Many old games don't get any updates too, but are still played. So it's still worth it at sale price.

4000? Never seen it past 2, let alone 3000.

https://steamcharts.com/app/924970
3703 in the past 30 days.
5461 last month.
6084 2 months ago.
8211 3 months ago.
5435 4 months ago.

Dunno what site you're using to track players but I'd recommend SteamDB for Steam numbers. Crossplay obviously adds more, dunno how much, no one does, but it's above 3k easily.

[Reeva!]

Originally posted by RezKid↠:

Originally posted by meat beat mania:

less than 2k player avg yikes turtle rock dumped the game hard cant blame em

1 out of 10 players are on pc and steam so you are looking at 20000 players active on crossplay daily ,turtle rock will never recover from there actions nice try though this game will be played on steam more an more as the price is reduced

You pulled that number out of your arse. If you pulled it from somewhere that doesn't stink in the dark, do give us a link, I've not found one.