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I will give you words of wisdom: "Just because YOU don't like something doesn't mean it's a problem for everyone else". And just because some noobs complain doesn't mean the game needs to be changed for them.
The bots in this game aren't bad anymore and they haven't been that bad since months ago, most of the people that complain about the bots are TERRIBLE at the game. They are unable to play around the bots. If the bots were like the bots in Vermintide 1 where you actually need mods for the bots to not die in the first 10 seconds of the game, I would understand the bot complaints, but since they aren't it's just laughable considering the game is far more easier with bots than with actual people, unless you had a coordinated team.
Anyone that actually knows how to play the game knows these people are just bad. A lot of complaints for B4B hold no power except a few. I've said it before and I will keep saying it again, some peoples opinions don't matter at all because their perspective and knowledge of the game are terrible. It's extremely easy to know who's good and who's bad here based on their complaints.
All i gave was feedback, two things, that the gore could use some tweaking and the bots. How does that validate jester award spamming?
I believe it's called Gaslighting? Manipulating a persons perception. They take comments out of context, and insinuate great insult to them personally, because they disagree, but can't offer anything up other than. No you.
Then it devolves from there.
Games with busier boards, have the exact same stuff going on, but the mods there will delete entire threads within hours of it going into bullying territory.
That's not true at all. What we all wanted was the game which was originally advertised. Back 4 Blood isn't it.
Enough people either played it or heard about to the point where it just isn't fun or much like L4D, and the numbers playing have reflected this since the game came out.
This game is never going to be fun, it will never be the L4D successor it originally claimed to be.
Sincerely,
1650 hours on L4D2
How ever TRS was never quiet about the differences that would exist between L4D and B4B.
A majority people who complain, could be satiated with a version without cards, copper, and the "super unfair" corruption cards, muddling up their precious game play.
The bots are lemmings who will throw themselves into the line of fire. on Nightmare that means they are getting hammered by 2 to 3 dps builds from people who will not stop shooting at a horde just because some dumb ass bot jumped in front of them. so no the bots are not "fine". Also i would really like to be able to turn on my own flash light just saying.
Then again, private profile, doesn't own the game.
They never said they were going to make L4D3, by your wording it seems you assumed they were. Your comment also reeks of someone who only played on release or watched crowbcats video and based their whole decision on that. Considering the game has changed substantially since then and all you're saying is quite subjective.
Another private profile that doesn't own the game.
That's fine because you and everyone else proves me right.
At least your profile isn't private but you don't own the game.
All of you don't have any credibility. It would be akin to a virgin talking about sex.
Flashlight doesn't matter at all, there's barely any dark levels in the game.
Also you have less than 5 hours into the game, no one will take your opinions/feedback serious here. It's common knowledge that people that complain when they have such few hours are either review bomb trolls or exceptionally "special" people that suck at the game. And when I say "special" it's those kinds of players that put little to no emphasis on trying to get better or put no effort into understanding the game.
You're not the first here like that, a lot of people here hold no credibility and as such their feedback most of the time is due to their awful inexperience with the game. Which in turn makes people that are experienced with the game laugh.
You gotta understand, it's akin to someone playing on recruit complaining about the game, that's how a lot of people here sound. A lot of players here are like that, complaining about some things that really don't matter as much and it's just their emotions getting in the way because they want it easier or want it to be just like another game.
They don't like the answer and therefore don't like you because you wrote the answer (with link to the actual data).
→ Some people are just stupid
If you want to write with "good" communities only i can recommend singleplayergames with riddles. The discussions there are almost always constructive, adult and still sometimes entertaining and funny.
let's be honest..
- it's a zombis shooting game
- play with 4 characters(4 players)
- with playable zombis specials
- from point A to point B, with many guns, equipment and stuff to collect along the way.
- hordes
- some small challenges
- maps on multiples levels
that only is L4D(2) spirit.... It have all of this already.
and more...
- drop rewards system
- skins drop
- ingame store with supply points
- cards to make your character unique and specific for a game style
- cards to penalize you and make game randomly challenging
- more sort of specials zombis to fight (more than L4D(2))
- cross platform (Pc, xbox and such)
It is definitly a spirit son of L4D serie. You can't deny that.
As for fun... everybody their own way to consider fun. But having more challenge and need to think or trying to find the card deck that correspond to your game style is alots of fun.
You can even try to get all the worse game you can and beat the game like this (good luck, it's a real pai in the ass for sure XD)
Many people, including you, seems to not realise that This is a new game, not a sequel of L4D(2) itself. As such, it has to be different and not a straigth up basic copy.
All the new mechanics included in B4B are good imho. They keep L4D spirit but add more challenge.
So what else? I can bet if the devs would have just created a copy paste of L4D, as you want, the same people would have come complaining about the fact it's a basic copy of L4D without anything new.
And yes, L4D needed something new. Because L4D will be dead for many years already without the modding community. Keep that in mind. The L4D you actually have thousands hours on it, is probably NOT (and i bet on that) the L4D base game, but a modded one.
I have 300+hours on L4D2 on steam (and probably thousands offline steam that isn't counted.), i discovered B4B 2 days ago, i love it. To me, it's L4D with a young foutain bath.
I understand some people dont like it, but at least, find some valid reasons to explain why. And not the standard useless "reason" that is "It's not a copy of L4D".