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Strint 24/out./2021 às 17:50
has anyone beat nightmare or veteran all acts?
it seems way to easy on recruit and to hard on veteran lol
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**DeiRowtag 24/out./2021 às 17:52 
Many has beat veteran, I did
sergantuss 24/out./2021 às 17:53 
yes
you can check achivement info to know how many.
but i can say that each of nightmare missions was beated by 0.1% players.
Dont know how is it about vet
ShouteN 24/out./2021 às 17:54 
Veteran is pretty easy when you have decent deck and decent team. If you are struggling with randoms go to B4B discord and get yourself a team.

Nightmare is pretty much unbalanced, played some, but didint even bothered to finish it.
Yeah there are some people who did nightmare legitimately and have videos of it.
I'm on Act 2 nightmare and it is rough....

Veteran was pretty rough but the biggest issue is starting and once you get established its not so bad... but in order to get established you need certain cards unlocked, diversity in the team, and then you have to beat RNG also.... but once you get pass mission 3 or 4 the ball starts rolling and it is fine.
Reeva! 24/out./2021 às 18:03 
Escrito originalmente por Strint:
it seems way to easy on recruit and to hard on veteran lol
Both should be doable with a full deck and either very, very, careful, and slow plays, or, full rush builds that say "F everything, last one to the safe door is worm food."
Veteran isn't too bad, but it can feel like Nightmare depending on the cards.
Nightmare is a mess no matter what you do, it's straight up unfair, but the difficulty atm is making the best out of bad situations. Every situation will be a bad one, game just likes to see how much you can handle. People who complain tallboys are too tanky after getting cornered by them due to their own positioning and low damage, is not exactly the game's fault. Not saying the complaint doesn't have merit, Nightmare mode is BS, but there are simple ways to just complete levels quickly or painfully slowly.
Guzma 24/out./2021 às 18:36 
Escrito originalmente por Strint:
it seems way to easy on recruit and to hard on veteran lol
Yes, I do veteran runs for ♥♥♥♥♥ and giggles when i want a break from Nightmare
Terotrous 24/out./2021 às 19:00 
Escrito originalmente por **DeiRowtag:
Many has beat veteran, I did
It's not "many", it's 2%. We can see this through the Steam achievements.

Nightmare's completion percentage sits at 0.1%.

Through immense toil, my 2-stack has reached Vet 8-5. This stage is virtually impossible, though we're sort of approaching a viable strategy for it. There's no doubt that playing in a 2-stack is a huge handicap compared to having 4 competent players, as the bots are almost totally useless, spending most of their time stuck in doorways and just sitting there as the Ridden beat them to death, but this is easily one of the most brutal challenges I have ever seen in any game. I legitimately doubt beating Nightmare with a 2-stack is even possible, but I'll be satisfied if we beat veteran.
Última edição por Terotrous; 24/out./2021 às 19:03
Reeva! 24/out./2021 às 19:16 
Escrito originalmente por Terotrous:
Escrito originalmente por **DeiRowtag:
Many has beat veteran, I did
It's not "many", it's 2%. We can see this through the Steam achievements.

Nightmare's completion percentage sits at 0.1%.

Through immense toil, my 2-stack has reached Vet 8-5. This stage is virtually impossible, though we're sort of approaching a viable strategy for it. There's no doubt that playing in a 2-stack is a huge handicap compared to having 4 competent players, as the bots are almost totally useless, spending most of their time stuck in doorways and just sitting there as the Ridden beat them to death, but this is easily one of the most brutal challenges I have ever seen in any game. I legitimately doubt beating Nightmare with a 2-stack is even possible, but I'll be satisfied if we beat veteran.
Melee build and Sniper build. Melee needs to get damage, attack speed, healing on kills, Vanguard specifically to help the whole team survive as bots are irredeemably stupid and shielding them does make a huge difference, and needs to be Holly. edit: you wanna try and keep a bat or machete, not axes. axes destroy bosses and tallboys but you wanna be shielding yourself to the max in hordes, axes are crap for that. If your sniper isn't good enough, take axes.
Sniper should be Jim but can be Walker too. Only taking Sniper because Ogres are a pain to deal with for melee, you shouldn't have to melee it, but a Weakspot-deck sniper can make short work of it in less than a minute if they aim well.
Otherwise, get a copper scavenger, with all the copper perks. Run support slots, offensive slots, and accessory damage on them. You can buy every single improvement in all the shops at all times which will make your whole team a monster, you'll be able to carry 8+ offensive accessories, barbed wire can kill regular Ridden with accessory damage cards, and you can grenade anything big enough to survive your teammate and the bots with impunity.
You can take Karlee too instead of the recommended characters, for the Use Speed, if those end-parts are really difficult to do, tying containers to the chopper etc.
Última edição por Reeva!; 24/out./2021 às 19:20
TaterTot 24/out./2021 às 19:42 
Very few have hit the end game difficulties and completed them. Most dont push their abilities to have more of a challenge. They prefer to play the easiest difficulty and say they beat it in 1 day.
Reeva! 24/out./2021 às 19:59 
Escrito originalmente por TaterTot:
Very few have hit the end game difficulties and completed them. Most dont push their abilities to have more of a challenge. They prefer to play the easiest difficulty and say they beat it in 1 day.
It's a bit like saying you didn't beat Diablo 3 on Torment 13, therefor you've never beaten it. Technically you've beaten it 15-16 times, it's just you haven't done all the difficulties and achievements. You still finished the story, therefor the game. Unless they fix the B4B Nightmare mode and make Veteran more stable to a point where it's not nearly impossible or nearly as easy as Recruit, I'm not playing Nightmare in its current state, nor am I torturing my friends by tricking them into doing it with me, hell, I still need to give them a good reason to buy this... game.
Última edição por Reeva!; 24/out./2021 às 20:01
Valerie 24/out./2021 às 20:02 
Recently just beat Veteran on all acts. It was pretty rough, but honestly it felt only rough when certain corruption cards came into play the seriously eff'd us. ACT 3 being the biggest hurdle. Like when it spawns a boss DIRECTLY out of the first level and you have little copper/good weapons to really deal with it. Especially when it's a breaker/hag.

I don't even know if I wanna think about nightmare though. I heard there's even a DoT corruption card until the end of the level... On top of just throwing more corruption cards per level. I'd like to tackle it someday, but it sounds like all the problems I had with Veteran will be amplified even more on Nightmare. (RNG Corruption cards absolutely killing a run).
Última edição por Valerie; 24/out./2021 às 20:03
Blue 24/out./2021 às 21:38 
Escrito originalmente por Valerie:
Recently just beat Veteran on all acts. It was pretty rough, but honestly it felt only rough when certain corruption cards came into play the seriously eff'd us. ACT 3 being the biggest hurdle. Like when it spawns a boss DIRECTLY out of the first level and you have little copper/good weapons to really deal with it. Especially when it's a breaker/hag.

I don't even know if I wanna think about nightmare though. I heard there's even a DoT corruption card until the end of the level... On top of just throwing more corruption cards per level. I'd like to tackle it someday, but it sounds like all the problems I had with Veteran will be amplified even more on Nightmare. (RNG Corruption cards absolutely killing a run).
That boss right out of the room on Act 3, you just need to buy stun grenades or stun guns, and regular grenades. If it's the hag, stun it and then throw grenades, and melee if you got a melee build. Same with the breaker. This will usually let you kill the hag on the first try.

Nightmare is a massive pain with the RNG. I've had runs where everybody immediately left the game at the start because of bad card draws. And unlike veteran it's nearly impossible to do with randoms. There are much more ways to alert hordes, and setting off 1-3 can easily kill a run.
Escrito originalmente por **DeiRowtag:
Many has beat veteran, I did

The steam achievements show otherwise.
Terotrous 24/out./2021 às 21:44 
Got Veteran 8-5, so I think we can finish the rest, what a nightmare though. There's also a glitch where the bots sometimes don't play their personal cards, so you don't get their team buffs (most often happens after using a continue), which made things extra difficult.
♋Phenex 24/out./2021 às 22:05 
Veteran is like under 1.5% completed for all players and me and my friends beat it recently as well once you get better cards and learn the maps.

Some maps also have strats you can build decks around once you get certain checkpoints. Nightmare is a different beast though.
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