My take on Back 4 Blood, ...it sucks!

[BatSithCrazy]

If you are going to be making your pre-purchase decision of L4D hype and hoping with excitement for a L4D3. You will be severely disappointed.

https://youtu.be/7M4RwGwQslM

And ...you are heavily disillusioned if you think that you are getting “gameplay,” “game-flow,” or a game-loop similar, or better than previous franchise, you are in for a very harsh awaking.

Back 4 Blood plays nothing like Left 4 Dead, or Left 4 Dead 2.

First, the stamina limitations in Back 4 Blood, utterly breaks game-flow, because your stamina is used for running and melee, you can’t do both.

Imagine taking the stamina system out of (Dead Island) and adding it into a Left 4 Dead game. That is what Back 4 Blood has done. L4D is a quick on your feet arcade-fps experience, and B4B turns it into a dull and slow, rusty-swamp, it just does not work.

Remember the butter-cream-smooth MELEE, with huge splatter impacts. It’s GONE in Back 4 Blood, the melee kills have ZERO, Nada, no MEATY sound IMPACT with infused splatter sounds.

https://youtu.be/FrIudsR41F4

Another point in the melee system, normally in L4D & 2. Your secondary button had a push back ability together with your melee hit. This is not the case in, B2B. You only get a soft slap, which does nothing to the Ridden.

Yes, you did read it correctly, there are no ZOMBIES in Back 4 Blood, THEY ARE RIDDEN! Let that sink in for moment. You are playing a “L4D clone” where the actual zombies, ARE NOT CALLED zombies.

Talk about major fail, just on that point alone!

So how is the gore in Back 4 Blood, you ask? ...well, ever heard of "La Tomatina", it's a RED TOMATO THROWING FESTIVAL, the kind you see on Spanish TV. It looks just like that in Back 4 blood, utter rubbish. The red colour ketchup is thrown all around, for the sake of red, Red …ReED, JUST PAINT IT ALLLL REEEED, MORE REEEEEED!

Do not get me started on the poor animations, substandard dismemberments (where most hits're not registered on models), and low quality audio. It’s just not on par with L4D.

Do you want the raw truth?

The amount of development time and money spent on the (Card system) should have been allocated to develop something all players would have wanted, a (Co-Op Versus).

Nobody asked for a “Star Wars Battlefield Card-System” in a Zombie FPS, especially one that is mimicking the Left 4 Dead Franchise.

All that L4D gamers really wanted was a (Co-Op Versus), and a (New Single player Campaign).

If you ask us, we want quality, not quantity. Left 4 Dead 2 has fewer special Zombies, and even fewer weapons, but they feel good to use and play. Back 4 Blood has more of everything, doesn’t mean its better. Less is more if done right.

And Back 4 Blood has a long way to go before it’s worth 60 dollars, no way is it worth 100 dollars. At this point it’s a 30-dollar game. Want me to be generous, MAX 45-dollar game, and that’s stretching it.

I wont mention all the shady stuff, with DLC, Micro or season pass, and skins being thrown at the player, before the game is even out.

Back 4 Blood, need to be in the oven for another year of development, minimum. If you buy it on the October release date, you will be disappointed on how lacklustre it will be.

[CryonicSuspension]

don't hold back now - tell us how you really feel?

[Sterno]

I don't agree with all your points, but it's a fairly well-written criticism.

The one bone I'd have to pick... complaining that they're called "Ridden" instead of "Zombies"? You count that as a "major fail"? It's just a word, man.

[Pixie Paws]

I was really disappointed in B4B survivor animations. Even L4D had better and it was developed in 2008. Cringe.

[Chrille 🎃]

I am also dissapointed. The Beta was okey-ish... But it felt more as an alpha... and the asking price? Take a look at Overkills the Walking dead marketing and compare, just saying.

[Dakuwan]

reeeeeeeeeeeee

[Apeman]

L4D enemies are actually infected, so technically not really zombies either.

[Sleep0]

This game is about as disappointing and over priced as every other hyped game lately

[CryonicSuspension]

Yeah well... that's just like... your opinion man?

[Viriatox]

Originally posted by CryonicSuspension:

Yeah well... that's just like... your opinion man?

thanks captain obvius!!! Great job!!

[CryonicSuspension]

Originally posted by Viriatox:

Originally posted by CryonicSuspension:

Yeah well... that's just like... your opinion man?

thanks captain obvius!!! Great job!!

LOL imagine not getting the joke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j95kNwZw8YY

[DanteBrane]

The stamina system is definetly very annoying. Why bother shoving if it is terrible, drains stamina and only affects 1 ridden at a time? I also think that the special infected like the wretches and tall boys just have too much health. The weak spot on the tall boys is not that visible when it's coming at you dead on, so it ends up being this bullet sponge sometimes. Or maybe it's just because I mostly use shotguns and they seem very underpowered.

I think the sound design is lacking too. There are many times where there is 1 ridden just tickling my back and draining my health but I don't notice it because it's near silent and there's no impact felt from getting hit by one of them. And the special ridden sometimes feel like they just spawn right on top of you because their noise isn't that audible.

The melee is lacking like you said. Seems like I'm getting hit before a ridden even raises its arm to hit me. So most of the time I get health back and then immediately lose it when I go in for melee. No impact, the hitboxes for the melee is strange for weapons that swing in a wide arc. Half the time I'm somehow meleeing teammates that are not near where I'm aiming or sometimes not even on my screen.

[Oni]

Remember this game was supposed to come out more than 6 months ago in a worse state than this

As it stands Back 4 Blood is a decent PvE only game, another average L4DClone

the PvE is horribly bullet sponge tallboy spam every 15 seconds
inconsistent Horde Spam, no pause in the hordes
L4D2 Melee system is far superior

kiting tallboys around the entire PvE campaign gets boring real fast
Grenade spam cards and Heal card meta


Swarm Mode is dead on arrival, Round 1 Ragequitters revolving door
no bots can fill slots, no Join In-Progress

Crusher is broken, his moveset doesn't even work on console
prevalent netcode issues below 100 ping

2x Tallboys & 2 Hocker Meta

every round is the same, fight in the widest open, nade spam tallboys

Killing Floor 2 Medic Meta, spam heal efficency cards and full heal everytime w/ 1bandage

Doc and Mom are S Tier meta classes already, every game will play the same
there is only 1 good card deck build, spam heals and nades with +damage, Dual Primaries

TurtleRockStudios will be begging for the Campaign Versus Community to come crawling back in a year from now when Warner Bros threathens to shut down the servers

[GameLogic]

So, what I’m understanding is…. You liked it?

[CryonicSuspension]

Did you play in the Alpha? I think it's weird that the card draw changed to 1 of 3 cards drawn to 1 of 5 cards drawn... I mean... you never have a bad draw now?

[Krobon]

Originally posted by Sterno:

I don't agree with all your points, but it's a fairly well-written criticism.

The one bone I'd have to pick... complaining that they're called "Ridden" instead of "Zombies"? You count that as a "major fail"? It's just a word, man.

I think regardless of the game, it's kind of annoying how everyone wants to call zombies anything but zombies. It's like saying. "If it walks like a dog, talks like a dog, it must be a potato."