Anti denuvo petition

[GoodnessGracious]

Anyone up for a mass refund claim, unless they remove denuvo?

It won't stop pirating, as denuvo has been hacked everytime, and all it does is cause performance issues for legit buyers.

[[ScrN]PooSH]

I would support the refunding, but the game has so many red flags besides Denuvo that I haven't preordered it in the first place.

[NeloDante]

ＰＳＹＣＨＥ の投稿を引用：

the only people that concern about denuvo is obviously a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ pirate

Ah yes, the pirate, the one that gets the better product when Denuvo gets cracked, are the ones crying about Denuvo.
Ah yes, the consumer, the one getting performance issues, requirement of online, the servers of Denuvo not being down, Denuvo not flipping... is DEFINETLY the one with the better end of the stick.

Do you think before typing?

How can ANYONE be happy about Denuvo being added? HOW? It's completely illogical. Screws over consumer meanwhile stops pirates for a day or week who end up with a better product afterwards.
Everybody loses, just that consumers lose harder.

[CheesusPrice]

ＰＳＹＣＨＥ の投稿を引用：

the only people that concern about denuvo is obviously a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ pirate

Actually for trashy games with poorly implemented anti consumer mtx like Anthem - it's morally superior to be a pirate.

I'm not advocating piracy by any means, but if I were to choose between giving my hard earned dosh to maintain anti consumer practices than I may as well just take the lesser evil.

Personally though, if I find a game I pirated to be worth my time I will legitimately buy it to support the devs. This is yet to be seen for this game.

At least the pirated version will have all the 100dollar character and weapon skins.

[[Tortilla Papas '90]]

ＰＳＹＣＨＥ の投稿を引用：

the only people that concern about denuvo is obviously a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ pirate

I mean, it'd be of concern to pirates if Denuvo actually did a thing to stop 'em.
But I've yet to see a game that hasn't been cracked within a week yet, now.
Hell, DOOM Eternal got cracked in a DAY. And Bethesda can do all the damage control about it being "leaked" by an "anonymous employee", It still got cracked WITHIN THE FIRST DAY OF RELEASE.

Denuvo is useless. It doesn't just impact performance. It has the same terrible issues Securom and StarForce, SafeDisc, etc... Which is they HAVE A TENDENCY to flip their lid and suddenly your legitimate copy of the game is no longer legit. Congrats, now you have a game you can't play.
Look at the Rainbow Six Vegas fiasco.

[Shatterlight]

Love denuvo, do not remove this

[[ScrN]PooSH]

Shatterlight の投稿を引用：

Love denuvo, do not remove this

Is this sarcasm, trolling, or mental disability?

[Invisible]

ScrNPooSH の投稿を引用：

Shatterlight の投稿を引用：

Love denuvo, do not remove this

Is this sarcasm, trolling, or mental disability?

trolling or too dumb. He post in anothe thread saying the reason I am buying this game has denouvo

[[Tortilla Papas '90]]

ScrNPooSH の投稿を引用：

Shatterlight の投稿を引用：

Love denuvo, do not remove this

Is this sarcasm, trolling, or mental disability?

Don't even bother with that guy. Trust me, his genetics don't allow him to be any better.

[andrudis]

This game already had significant technical issues that prevented some people from playing the game - those issues were not removed during demo. It is still not clear if any of those issues will be removed on release date, but it is clear that adding Denuvo will definitely make things even worse and for what reason? I can understand adding Denuvo to single-player offline games to keep pirates at bay during initial high sales months, but this is primary online coop game which require connection to servers any way....

Anyway nobody cares about petitions. Just don't buy or refund. I would not care much if demo went fine, but it did not. So me and my friends decided to skip it at least until the next free weekends or 85%+ positive review score

[DeadSlash]

BoyZ の投稿を引用：

What is denuvo mean?? I dont understand

Denuvo is anti-piracy software that really, REALLY irritates pirates to the point where they basically can't stop obsessing over it.

Sometimes it last days, weeks or even months before it is cracked, and having to wait weeks or months to steal something really drives dirty filthy thieves up a wall.

As a result, once Denuvo is announced, you have to read 10k posts about how Denuvo "hurts the consumer" or "slows the game down" or "destroys your hard drive" or even that it will kill you pets.

This anti-denuvo campaign might actually frighten the most casual of casual consumers, until they do a little research and find that Denuvo isn't NEW. It has been around for years on dozens of games the consumer already owns and none of the things they just read from the weeping pirates have any basis in reality.

It's actually kind of great to see the meltdown of the dirty filthy pirates every time Denuvo is announced. Look how mad they are that they might have to wait to steal something.

[DEVILDICE]

DeadSlash の投稿を引用：

BoyZ の投稿を引用：

What is denuvo mean?? I dont understand

Denuvo is anti-piracy software that really, REALLY irritates pirates to the point where they basically can't stop obsessing over it.

Sometimes it last days, weeks or even months before it is cracked, and having to wait weeks or months to steal something really drives dirty filthy thieves up a wall.

As a result, once Denuvo is announced, you have to read 10k posts about how Denuvo "hurts the consumer" or "slows the game down" or "destroys your hard drive" or even that it will kill you pets.

This anti-denuvo campaign might actually frighten the most casual of casual consumers, until they do a little research and find that Denuvo isn't NEW. It has been around for years on dozens of games the consumer already owns and none of the things they just read from the weeping pirates have any basis in reality.

It's actually kind of great to see the meltdown of the dirty filthy pirates every time Denuvo is announced. Look how mad they are that they might have to wait to steal something.

Its an online only game, chief. People are questioning why they are adding anti piracy software to a game that can't even be pirated. It requires a connection to their servers to play, Denuvo prevents nothing in the case of this game. This has absolutely nothing to do with piracy.

[[Tortilla Papas '90]]

DeadSlash の投稿を引用：

-Snip

Ah yes, the PIRATES are the ones complaining. The ones that just HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL IT'S CRACKED, where then they won't have to deal with the DRM's bull, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, ♥♥♥♥ are the ones complaining. Totally.

Not the ones that are going to feel the hit. Totally not. It's not as if Denuvo was made by BASICALLY the same people that gave us the gems that were SecuRom and StarForce. Two CD Based Anti-Tamper programs that'd flip their lid very frequently and claim the legit copies of a game were no longer legit. Anti-Tamper programs SO HARDCORE ON THEIR CODING that games that had digital versions of the, like Rainbow Six Vegas 1 and 2, HAD to be patched OFFICIALLY BY UBISOFT with a NoCD Crack from cdcopyworld.
Totally.

[Oni]

Nobody is saying it's new or that piracy is justified, they're saying that Denuvo in this case serves absolutely no purpose when the game already forces you to connect to a server to play. That's already a near 100% way to stop piracy.
There's no reason for Denuvo to be there, no benefit to the consumer whatsover, and it can potentially mess with alot of peoples' performance when the game is already looking like a bad deal to a lot of people.

It's a very counter-productive decision in a long list of other questionable decisions already.

[DeadSlash]

Zer0 の投稿を引用：

DeadSlash の投稿を引用：

Denuvo is anti-piracy software that really, REALLY irritates pirates to the point where they basically can't stop obsessing over it.

Sometimes it last days, weeks or even months before it is cracked, and having to wait weeks or months to steal something really drives dirty filthy thieves up a wall.

As a result, once Denuvo is announced, you have to read 10k posts about how Denuvo "hurts the consumer" or "slows the game down" or "destroys your hard drive" or even that it will kill you pets.

This anti-denuvo campaign might actually frighten the most casual of casual consumers, until they do a little research and find that Denuvo isn't NEW. It has been around for years on dozens of games the consumer already owns and none of the things they just read from the weeping pirates have any basis in reality.

It's actually kind of great to see the meltdown of the dirty filthy pirates every time Denuvo is announced. Look how mad they are that they might have to wait to steal something.

Its an online only game, chief. People are questioning why they are adding anti piracy software to a game that can't even be pirated. It requires a connection to their servers to play, Denuvo prevents nothing in the case of this game. This has absolutely nothing to do with piracy.

If not piracy, what? Is it a conspiracy? Denuvo isn't free to the Devs. You think they forked over boat loads of cash with no idea how or if it benefited them?

IT BEGINS の投稿を引用：

DeadSlash の投稿を引用：

-Snip

Ah yes, the PIRATES are the ones complaining. The ones that just HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL IT'S CRACKED, where then they won't have to deal with the DRM's bull, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, ♥♥♥♥ are the ones complaining. Totally.

Not the ones that are going to feel the hit. Totally not. It's not as if Denuvo was made by BASICALLY the same people that gave us the gems that were SecuRom and StarForce. Two CD Based Anti-Tamper programs that'd flip their lid very frequently and claim the legit copies of a game were no longer legit. Anti-Tamper programs SO HARDCORE ON THEIR CODING that games that had digital versions of the, like Rainbow Six Vegas 1 and 2, HAD to be patched OFFICIALLY BY UBISOFT with a NoCD Crack from cdcopyworld.
Totally.

Thank you for proving my point that Denuvo drives reason from people. LOL that you would even argue that pirates aren't bothered when they can't play something on day one. Seriously, you can sit at the adults table with that clap trap.

For your second point:
1. You're talking about DRMs not named Denuvo as proof Denuvo is "teh devilz"
2. Huh, so a Rogue DRM was conquered by the internet? The hell you say?! So, in other words, the tried and true pirate talking point of "If Denuvo goes out of business all Denuvo games are lost forever!" is total BS, and we all know that because we have historic example proving it.

I realize you personally haven't made that point, but it's in every other Denuvo post and it is dumb as hell. It is unreasonable to believe that Denuvo can be cracked WHILE the Devs are ACTIVELY TRY TO PREVENT A CRACK, but magically is all support of Denuvo ceases it will be uncrackable.

This is all so tiring.

[[Tortilla Papas '90]]

DeadSlash の投稿を引用：

If not piracy, what? Is it a conspiracy? Denuvo isn't free to the Devs. You think they forked over boat loads of cash with no idea how or if it benefited them?

It's forked over by the publishers. They're the ones paying for a license for Denuvo.
And if I know anything, in terms of publishers, it's to trust WarnerBros THE LEAST. I still remember the LOTR:Shadow of War clownshow vividly, where they tried to profit off a SUPPOSEDLY charity DLC about one of the devs' deaths. Boy did that stir controversy.

DeadSlash の投稿を引用：

Thank you for proving my point that Denuvo drives reason from people. LOL that you would even argue that pirates aren't bothered when they can't play something on day one. Seriously, you can sit at the adults table with that clap trap.

It doesn't drive reason from people, it adds on to the list of things that this game already has going against it, in this case.
Usually because Denuvo's implementation is rather shoddy. Meaning it impact performance. Meaning cracked copies of the game, even legit ones as you can crack your steam copy, have less things hampering them. It also makes modding games 7 kinds of hell to work through.
MHW is a clear cut case. Even someone like Kaldaien, a modder that was VERY Pro-Denuvo that put antipirate measures such as BSOD'ing your system in his mods, had to stop supporting it because he had enough with the program's BS.

DeadSlash の投稿を引用：

For your second point:
1. You're talking about DRMs not named Denuvo as proof Denuvo is "teh devilz"
2. Huh, so a Rogue DRM was conquered by the internet? The hell you say?! So, in other words, the tried and true pirate talking point of "If Denuvo goes out of business all Denuvo games are lost forever!" is total BS, and we all know that because we have historic example proving it.

I realize you personally haven't made that point, but it's in every other Denuvo post and it is dumb as hell. It is unreasonable to believe that Denuvo can be cracked WHILE the Devs are ACTIVELY TRY TO PREVENT A CRACK, but magically is all support of Denuvo ceases it will be uncrackable.

Denuvo's devs are the same ones that made Securom and StarForce. Read again dude.
And the point is NO GAME is uncrackable. Even online only games aren't safe. All you need to do is figure out how to tell the system to redirect to a personal server that'll validate your fake copy. Don't know how to reach that, but that's basic knowledge. Hell I remember playing Helldivers with people that pirated the game and ran it through something called Revolt or some ♥♥♥♥. And that's an online only game.
Hell even more, DOOM Eternal got cracked DAY 1. Denuvo's been figured out. It takes up to a week for it to be cracked. And what's a week for someone that can wait up to months for a game to be pirateable?