ArcSys Says you can't Stream their game

[Thine Very Own, Nemesis~]

https://twitter.com/ArcSystemWorksU/status/1154798534232666114

What even

[Red]

Probably because of the story. They had the same policy about BBCF and GGXrd.

[M1H1]

I received this message when I got my key:
"Thank you for your interest in KILL la KILL - IF!

There is no embargo for the game, so feel free to start creating content. However, we have two strict guidelines from Arc System Works. Please respect them or they will ban any content they deem unsuitable:

1) No story mode content beyond the first battle of the first chapter. (Up to the end of said battle.)
2) No extreme game balance research contents. (Frame data, hit box, Maximum combo strings/damage combo route, fastest way to unlock trophies and etc.)

If you received a Steam key, the Steam page isn't live yet (we do not control it), and we expect the code to work on launch (July 25th). "

[Ignus]

Originally posted by twitch.tv/mihibr:

2) No extreme game balance research contents. (Frame data, hit box, Maximum combo strings/damage combo route, fastest way to unlock trophies and etc.)

[Red]

Originally posted by Ignus:

Originally posted by twitch.tv/mihibr:

2) No extreme game balance research contents. (Frame data, hit box, Maximum combo strings/damage combo route, fastest way to unlock trophies and etc.)

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Smells like a lack of balance to me, but I might be wrong.

[Ignus]

Arcsys don't want people showing how broke this game is.

[Thine Very Own, Nemesis~]

Originally posted by twitch.tv/mihibr:

I received this message when I got my key:
"Thank you for your interest in KILL la KILL - IF!

There is no embargo for the game, so feel free to start creating content. However, we have two strict guidelines from Arc System Works. Please respect them or they will ban any content they deem unsuitable:

1) No story mode content beyond the first battle of the first chapter. (Up to the end of said battle.)
2) No extreme game balance research contents. (Frame data, hit box, Maximum combo strings/damage combo route, fastest way to unlock trophies and etc.)

If you received a Steam key, the Steam page isn't live yet (we do not control it), and we expect the code to work on launch (July 25th). "

1. That's hilarious
2. It sounds like they gave you the game before they released it
If 2 is the case that is fine, it's reasonable

The moment a game goes live to the public though streaming yourself playing the game is fair use in general given the transformative nature of games
The tweet seems extremely petty to me

[Shakzor]

Originally posted by twitch.tv/mihibr:

2) No extreme game balance research contents. (Frame data, hit box, Maximum combo strings/damage combo route, fastest way to unlock trophies and etc.)

wtf, so if someone REALLY likes the game and wants to really dedicate themselves to it, they aren't allowed to share their knowledge? Don't fighting games pretty much rely on the communities? Especially with extremely niche games like this? (arena fighter AND for a rather specific anime)

[M1H1]

Originally posted by Thine Very Own, Nemesis~:

2. It sounds like they gave you the game before they released it
If 2 is the case that is fine, it's reasonable

I received it 10 days ago, but since there was no STEAM store entry, I was unable to download it.

Also, I believe those are guidelines for people playing it on consoles before the game's release.

[Thine Very Own, Nemesis~]

Originally posted by twitch.tv/mihibr:

Originally posted by Thine Very Own, Nemesis~:

2. It sounds like they gave you the game before they released it
If 2 is the case that is fine, it's reasonable

I received it 10 days ago, but since there was no STEAM store entry, I was unable to download it.

Also, I believe those are guidelines for people playing it on consoles before the game's release.

The twitter Quote or what they told you?

What they told you makes sense
Edit: Ya 'know because it was technically given to you before release
I assume they didn't understand how Steam handles distribution ...or they did

as for the Twitter post it was made 4 hours ago
which is either after or around when the game was released

[Visi]

I wish that something like this would go to court. No game dev/publisher has any right to dictate what someone can do regarding streaming/uploading gameplay, and any decent dev/publisher would just say anything goes. Extremely disappointing, Arc.

[Red]

Originally posted by Visi:

I wish that something like this would go to court. No game dev/publisher has any right to dictate what someone can do regarding streaming/uploading gameplay, and any decent dev/publisher would just say anything goes. Extremely disappointing, Arc.

Again, pretty sure it has something to do with the story content, for which they *can* do something because it's their property as opposed to gameplay. ASW has already done the same thing for BBCF and GGXrd, Konami/MercurySteam for Castlevania LoS2 too (but maybe for other reasons as well).

The only reasons I'd see for a streaming prohibition would be pre-release gameplay digging and/or a broken game with exploits and a lack of balance. And I'm hoping it's not the latter.