Steel Division 2

Steel Division 2

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2023 年 2 月 23 日 上午 12:04
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Introducing Steel Division 2: Men of Steel Expansion!
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KilluH 2023 年 2 月 23 日 下午 11:19 
no new maps? would love to see a feature where you could save your defenses per map. As it is so time consuming to set them up again and again
Ciggy Butt Brain 2023 年 2 月 23 日 下午 11:21 
Can you please just focus on Warno? You always say that you're a small dev team.
Nannun 2023 年 2 月 23 日 下午 11:31 
引用自 Complex Strategy
Looking back at the old nemesis divisions this is the current list of divisions t hat did not make into the game.

Germany - Festung Wilna, 20th Luftwaffe Field Division. 11th Panzer
Finland - 17th Division (swedish boys)
Soviets - 90th Rifle Division
Canada - 5th Armored Division
Slovakia - SNP
Poland - Ostra Brama
Hungary - 1st Armored
Romania - Detachment Paulis

Of those the Hungarian and Romanian are the one I could see not returning at all since the last major DLC has essentially done those units already (Paulis is literally a mixed soviet/romanian division)
The only wrinkle is a new minor nation since we have technically seen all the faction in game unless the SNP is counted as new. On top of that it would only be 6 nations since Germany hogs up so many divisions.
As such if you just replace 1 german division with a new minor nation like say Bulgaria or whatever then it kinda fits. You get 4 allied and axis divisions, pretty much all the nemesis divisions get into the game, and you owould have the 7 nations for 8 divisions.

Just an idea. Regardless of what it is new divisions are always so exciting :o
Paulis is a detachment without soviets,they whas exactly in first line,is a school of officers,a infantry brigade and a hard artilery batalion. Soviets like in AG,come late in phase of counter attack,Paulis detachment are group who have order to stop enemy until Ro army come and late soviets. Learn history,dont comment.
Noblesse Oblige [KG] ⳩ 2023 年 2 月 23 日 下午 11:33 
Really great that this game is still being developed. Great that WARNO features are coming over. In caretaker mode with a very small team I assume working on SD2 still, that's really cool.
However I have to agree with what people have been saying. We need new maps, preferably from other theatres to go with the new divisions. I remember you guys saying that you could not port the SD44 maps due to the download size it would balloon the game to. But as I said before. People can install and uninstall free or paid DLC at will if they want to pick and choose.

As for maps being more than most RTS. What are you comparing this game to? Most games do not have a giant map sliced into different pieces or rotated or even the same map simply widened for more players considered different maps in their counts. They only count unique maps.

Also most of the popular RTS games have modded map packs to download. DOW1, Homeworld 2 and any other RTS games that have withstood the test of time... consider also AOEIV which has a random map generator, different experience every time.
I remember Homeworld Deserts of Kharak had only a few maps but that was a niche cut and run game. That may be what you are refering to?

New Divisions on the same old maps makes the experience more or less the same. Terrain is such a huge feature and determinate of tactics and strategy regardless of ww2 equipment type. Not being able to adapt on the fly to new environments and knowing exactly where every bend and corner is makes it a little easier to play and for experienced players a huge advantage in multiplayer games. Because it has been years since release their was never (apart from release) an influx of maps large enough to take time to learn. You were never overwhelmed to the point of not learning everything in one night from a single released map at a time. Add to this that the terrain and colours on virtually all but a few of the maps in sd2 are pretty much the same, it's a theatre thing I guess, flat maps with flat hills and endless steppes.
Love to see if the new WARNO tall buildings that were originally going to be in SD2 might make it in.
最後修改者:Noblesse Oblige [KG] ⳩; 2023 年 2 月 24 日 上午 1:47
Kettenkrad81 2023 年 2 月 24 日 上午 12:57 
While its nice anyway that devs developing new stuff, but maps is the most important for keep people enjoy the games like SD2, even it was stated several times that there are already 35 maps, yes that is true eventually but still there is countless opportunities for more exciting eastern front maps/Scenarios.
Right now the focus is mainly just on Op.Bagration theatre of operations and to some extend the northern theatre of Karelian Isthmus but with all the units we got, there could be plenty more great scenarios like Kursk, Narva, Kurland pocket Seelow Heights, Urban warfare like Charkow, Kiev, Minsk Warsaw, Breslau, Königsberg and even Berlin. I know and understand that it will take good amounts of time to create maps but I'm certain that this would be the right stuff people are willing to spend their money on rather to get more divisions which could be created ingame by the players themselves !
Rooster 2023 年 2 月 24 日 上午 2:42 
Really happy to see more content. It's great to see that SD2 hasn't been abandoned after the release of WARNO. The new traits sound good & will shake up some of the existing divisions.

Regarding maps. I understand the reason you cannot add new maps to the base game (memory space on people's hard drives). However, would it not be possible to add a map DLC & let players decide if they have the capacity to store it?

This would mean a two tier multiplayer system - Standard & expanded. In standard, everyone goes into the same pool & can only be matched on the maps in the base game. In expanded, players who have the extra maps (the hardcore of players) can be matched against standard players but also expanded players & utilise the extra maps.

This keeps the base game within the memory limits but also allows for players to customise, should they wish to. I think an maps expansion would be a good seller. It would shut up most of the whiners (except the Jagdtiger & 1st SS types). You could add a few Western front maps & bulk it out by re-working some of the existing eastern front maps. Cropping or rotating them to add variety, or simply re-arranging flags to create different dynamics in battles.

This is just a suggestion, based on my very limited knowledge of the complexities of implementing such a plan, but in theory, it seems like a way to keep your hardcore players engaged, while not making the game inaccessible to new or casual players.
Belisarius 2023 年 2 月 24 日 上午 2:49 
I am mainly looking for more maps, divisions are nice but maps are far more important.
Gafotir 2023 年 2 月 24 日 上午 3:24 
Ok lads, but before going all fancy, there are some basic needs that are not adressed and should have been taken care of a long time ago. I have more than 1100 hours of multiplayer games, a lot of it in 10 vs 10, so i believe i know a little bit what i am doing, and it has been years that we have been playing 10 vs 10 on 3 maps ! 3 maps only !!!! Might be time to strongly increase that number, dont you believe ?
Furthermore, in 10 vs 10 again, there is still a huge inbalance beetween allied and germany due mostly to the abuse of KT decks. Ridiculous to have 3 to 5 KTs out 2 minutes into a game, dont you think ? A long time ago, the option to limit the number of KT decks allowed in a 10vs10 to one or 2 has been suggested but never acted upon.
This to say that i like the game, but before going all out on new things, might be usefull to adress the few problems that really bother people like me that have been with you for a while.
Without those changes, no use buying more DLCs. I'd rather quit steel division and move to Warno where things are not so unbalanced.
Good luck...
Cyrus 2023 年 2 月 24 日 上午 4:20 
more map variety for steel division 3 please and by map variety i'm talkin less Namek more Halo Ring

we need the 4 basic food groups

jungle/forest
desert
snow
Tropics
<!^!>~ Pocky ! <*=*> 2023 年 2 月 24 日 上午 5:09 
@Gafotir I guess this problem would not happen if they don't remove fuel from the game i mean KT is really fuel hungry but well without engine problem and fuel it move around battlefield without a problem

I remember SD44 deal with king tiger is hard already in open map but if forest map hehe staghound forever :)

But yeah it should not allow to spam king tiger or the available is crazy I'm tired of fight king tiger in this game and gave up on 10v10 i have many good hour with SD44 but SD2 it a bit spam but it fun just balance quite bad
Complex Strategy 2023 年 2 月 24 日 上午 5:47 
引用自 Nannun
Paulis is a detachment without soviets,they whas exactly in first line,is a school of officers,a infantry brigade and a hard artilery batalion. Soviets like in AG,come late in phase of counter attack,Paulis detachment are group who have order to stop enemy until Ro army come and late soviets. Learn history,dont comment.
Ok so it's a romaian and soviet battlegroup. Literally they held a vote on this one as it was one of the nemesis votes that ended up losing. In the event they made it an actual unit they would have intergrated soviets units into the division to make it big enough to be a full thing. Stop trying to to nitpick and start stuff.
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最後修改者:Complex Strategy; 2023 年 2 月 24 日 上午 5:48
Jake 2023 年 2 月 24 日 上午 7:52 
Is the scope of SD2 still only until August/September 1944? Would really love to see units like the Pershing or SU-100 in the game.
Zé Bonitinho 2023 年 2 月 24 日 上午 8:34 
omg enough with "new divisions" (diferent mixes of current units with a couple of new ones). Give us something really interesting.
最後修改者:Zé Bonitinho; 2023 年 2 月 25 日 上午 5:41
General Hawk 2023 年 2 月 24 日 下午 12:04 
Hopefully some SP campaigns coming....don't see the value of buying "different" divisions just for MP, many that feel like reskins. Love the game but hoping for focus on campaigns/operations not "divisions" that at best add incremental value.
moathib2 2023 年 2 月 24 日 下午 12:25 
Always good to have new stuff. But still no full campain in the tube? Like in total war série. Or as a new campain. whith point to build all the divisions an put in in a globe map. Or just Europe. Since most of the units needed are already done.
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