sergejkorent a écrit :

Nannun a écrit :

I think this campaign will be new AG. I hope to see and more historical missions. But only they known when and what will be.

The 22nd Cavalry Division has been in action since November. The only unit from the Division was the regimental group KG Ameiser. who fought in the month of September.

Panzergrenadier Division Feldhernhalle, according to documents for this period, was not a full-fledged division. Very little artillery. Three battalions of infantry, one of them on the SPW of five companies. Panther battalion from 110 Pz brigade. Like a battalion on SPW's. Battalion StuG's. There was also no reconnaisnce battalion. And there was a weak Engineering Battalion.

Also, this division does not fit the time frame. since she had been at war since October. And she has no new units.

I see , i was just suggesting and tbh didnt know how viable they actually were (this goes for all divisions listed) . Although Eugene has chosen incomplete divisions before , task force 45 exc). But i admit i am no expert , i would just like to see new romanian axis and allied divisions , same with a new division for Hungary or two.

SidewalkOfPain a écrit :

JDPUK a écrit :

And...what mechanics do you suggest?

Literally any new game modes: King of the Hill, Survival, Last Man Standing, Free for All, or whatever you can think of.

Let us change more of the rules of games.

Let us change the amount of troops in a division for custom games. Let us change the position of the flags on the map. Things like that would go a long way to enhancing gameplay.

This is a fairly easy fix.

Some really good points!

SidewalkOfPain a écrit :

JDPUK a écrit :

And...what mechanics do you suggest?

Literally any new game modes: King of the Hill, Survival, Last Man Standing, Free for All, or whatever you can think of.

Let us change more of the rules of games.

Let us change the amount of troops in a division for custom games. Let us change the position of the flags on the map. Things like that would go a long way to enhancing gameplay.

This is a fairly easy fix.

on a general notice: games that live long give people the freedom to play how they want.

redsimonDE a écrit :

别做孤儿主机 a écrit :

French don't like 2.SS particularly because they KILLED FRENCH ,but its just fine for 12ss killing Canadian POW, GD killing Russian civ and HG div killing Warsaw Polish with 559 thugs, etc. Not to mention 3.FJ plundering all across the lowland countries. Is that right?

That's not really releveant considering how all or almost all Allied soldiers, especially Russians, raped (including rape followed by murder) and plundered in Germany, isn't it?

There would be no game if you didn't include them, this being an Eastern front game and all.

These are all flowers, what are the official data on the killed French civilians by dear allies. 50 thousand civilians killed. Bombing, shelling.

EUG MadMat a écrit :

ＯＲＡＮＩＡ a écrit :

admins PLS add the MOST FAMOUS SS divisions of:

Why?
We add divisions if they bring something to the game, not out of fascination for the SS

ＯＲＡＮＩＡ a écrit :

2nd Das Reich

We've already clearly stated we would never add those.

ＯＲＡＮＩＡ a écrit :

23rd Nederland
(Niederländische Nr. 1)
28th Wallonien
27th Langemarck
(Flämische Nr. 1)
14th Galizische Nr. 1

Would bring nothing new to the game, but acknows.
Besides, many didn't even had a single armored vehicles.

ＯＲＡＮＩＡ a écrit :

33rd Charlemagne
(Französische Nr. 1)

Didn't even existed in our timeframe.

This has been discussed a lot already, in more dedicated thread, hence no need to hijack this one with this.

the 23rd ss Nederland or better known and with longer service as the 4th ss panzergrendier brigade nederland is my favorite german unit being Dutch. Already having french units i'd think this would be an amazing adition! praised for being hard and valiant fighters by their commanders they fought to the bitter end around leningrad, narva and on one of the in game maps tannenberg where they together with danmark, norge and langemarck even knocked out 110 soviet tanks in one day! the 4 ss pnzrgren brig nederland was also equipped with stugs from the SS-Panzerjäger-Abteilung 54 "Nederland" which the first company of featured the stug ace Derk-elsko Bruins who took out 12 soviet tanks at the battle of Narva. Not only that but this brigade features well known Dutch Knight's cross holder (and first foreign soldier to receive the knight's cross) Gerard Mooyman who serviced a PaK 97/38 and took out 13 tanks on one day at lake ladoga stopping the attack and his eventual tally was 23 tanks knocked out. I once saw some german ww2 footage on instagram of Derk-elsko Bruins in the copula of his stug.
The sources i used for this is from an E book i own that is supported with pictures and everything called: Dutch Waffen-SS Legion & Brigade 1941-44 by Massimiliano Afiero and Ramiro Bujeiro.

i'd love to see it being added as it was a very interesting brigade and together with the spanish the only missing foreign legions (yes there still is the italian SS but they wouldn't be as unique since this nationalities already is in the game. Still, the game lacks representation of foreign nationalities in the Divisions like Nordland and Wiking which featured: Finnish, Dutch, Belgian, Danish and Norwegian soldiers yet the majority isn't represented like the Westland Regiment in the 5.SS Wiking.

ᛉ Algiz ᛣ a écrit :

Dutch Knight's cross holder [...] Gerard Mooyman who serviced a PaK 97/38 and took out 13 tanks on one day at lake ladoga

thats quite an achievement with such a rubbish piece of weaponry lol

Wish i could get into Skirmish mode so I could appreciate the new divisions as they do seem quite good. I like/am used to battles the way they are in AG mode and i just cant do skirmish so all of these updates are unfortunately irrelevant for me. Itd be nice to see the new AG Campaign as promised months ago

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SidewalkOfPain a écrit :

Literally any new game modes: King of the Hill, Survival, Last Man Standing, Free for All, or whatever you can think of.

Let us change more of the rules of games.

Let us change the amount of troops in a division for custom games. Let us change the position of the flags on the map. Things like that would go a long way to enhancing gameplay.

This is a fairly easy fix.

on a general notice: games that live long give people the freedom to play how they want.

Very much so. If they would look at Supreme Commander or Dawn of War (two games with absurdly fanatical communities), then Eugen would really find some great features that used to be staples in RTS games.

Also more mod support would be great, but I understand why that is limited, since it would greatly reduce their ability to sell division DLC, if people went ahead and modded in whatever division they wanted or made new ones, especially with new units. With SU-100s and Pershings...

SidewalkOfPain a écrit :

Outdated a écrit :

on a general notice: games that live long give people the freedom to play how they want.

Very much so. If they would look at Supreme Commander or Dawn of War (two games with absurdly fanatical communities), then Eugen would really find some great features that used to be staples in RTS games.

Also more mod support would be great, but I understand why that is limited, since it would greatly reduce their ability to sell division DLC, if people went ahead and modded in whatever division they wanted or made new ones, especially with new units. With SU-100s and Pershings...

New divisions are already possible, and not too difficult to add - just check some mods in Steam Workshop(tbh, with like 80 divisions around battlegroups folder is difficult to navigate already). Same with new units - as long as they use existing models/UI, it's simply time-consuming process, and not much else.
New models are more problematic, but that's because game uses some pretty old vesrion of modeling kit, which is hard to find. StormfrontOst'41(Red Storm'44 sucsessor mod about Eastern front in 1941) is going to feature some new models.
Biggest issue is that mods are forced to require DLC, if they use content from it, which limits an audience. It's a price for being able to look through DLC content in mod files.

Ser Maks a écrit :

SidewalkOfPain a écrit :

Very much so. If they would look at Supreme Commander or Dawn of War (two games with absurdly fanatical communities), then Eugen would really find some great features that used to be staples in RTS games.

Also more mod support would be great, but I understand why that is limited, since it would greatly reduce their ability to sell division DLC, if people went ahead and modded in whatever division they wanted or made new ones, especially with new units. With SU-100s and Pershings...

New divisions are already possible, and not too difficult to add - just check some mods in Steam Workshop(tbh, with like 80 divisions around battlegroups folder is difficult to navigate already). Same with new units - as long as they use existing models/UI, it's simply time-consuming process, and not much else.
New models are more problematic, but that's because game uses some pretty old vesrion of modeling kit, which is hard to find. StormfrontOst'41(Red Storm'44 sucsessor mod about Eastern front in 1941) is going to feature some new models.
Biggest issue is that mods are forced to require DLC, if they use content from it, which limits an audience. It's a price for being able to look through DLC content in mod files.

But that's exactly it. A functional and capable mod-kit really makes games more useful. I wouldn't have bought the DLC for Mechwarrior 5, if MercTech and YAM didn't exist. Same for Warhammer 2.

Both those games are being held up by the mod community. And let's not even mention the juggernaut that is Skyrim/Fallout...

So, what I am saying is: this game either needs vastly improved DLC or a full mod kit. But with the current content, I'll keep playing it a bit, but see no reason to purchase any additional DLC or WARNO for that matter. Because I am pretty sure that WARNO will have a similar publishing policy.

Not exactly like there aren't enough good games out there.

SidewalkOfPain a écrit :

But that's exactly it. A functional and capable mod-kit really makes games more useful. I wouldn't have bought the DLC for Mechwarrior 5, if MercTech and YAM didn't exist. Same for Warhammer 2.

Both those games are being held up by the mod community. And let's not even mention the juggernaut that is Skyrim/Fallout...

So, what I am saying is: this game either needs vastly improved DLC or a full mod kit. But with the current content, I'll keep playing it a bit, but see no reason to purchase any additional DLC or WARNO for that matter. Because I am pretty sure that WARNO will have a similar publishing policy.

Not exactly like there aren't enough good games out there.

I don't really agree here. Easy accessibility of game files and several clear and thorough tutorials have exactly the same effect as modkit. That is why Medieval 2 TW is still around along Warhammer. In terms of SD:2, game files are easily accessible aside from maps/high-level AG modding.
What Steel Division modding truly lacks is: a)map editor, b)more common modeling kit, and c)ability to add new AG campaigns or overhaul existing ones. And here, I'd agree that we are unlikely to see any of those due to DLC policy.

Very cool!

I was wondering whether you could give us an update on the map editor?

also

Are you thinking about porting Steel Division Normandy maps to Steel Division 2, since the Western Divisions feel a bit out of place on Eastern maps imo ;)

Keep up the work!

cant wait for Croatian update!

I hope you continue with WW2 themed games really enjoy this and its DLCs.

Really looking forward to these new Nemesis divisions. You can't please all the people all of the time but you can please me with Croatians, Chetniks & Partisans!

I have sympathy with those asking for more game modes & editors etc... From my point of view, I've had many hundreds of entertainment out of this game & have found it great value for money. You don't need to buy DLC to be competitive as there are some excellent base game divisions to pick from. I've purchased all the DLC because I wanted to play them & support the developers.

Have I had frustrations, yes but in life you can't have everything you want all the time. When you look at what's going on in the world right now, throwing a tantrum on steam seems like the epitome of first world problems.