Автор сообщения: EUG MadMat

Автор сообщения: ＯＲＡＮＩＡ

admins PLS add the MOST FAMOUS SS divisions of:

Why?
We add divisions if they bring something to the game, not out of fascination for the SS

Автор сообщения: ＯＲＡＮＩＡ

2nd Das Reich

We've already clearly stated we would never add those.

Автор сообщения: ＯＲＡＮＩＡ

23rd Nederland
(Niederländische Nr. 1)
28th Wallonien
27th Langemarck
(Flämische Nr. 1)
14th Galizische Nr. 1

Would bring nothing new to the game, but acknows.
Besides, many didn't even had a single armored vehicles.

Автор сообщения: ＯＲＡＮＩＡ

33rd Charlemagne
(Französische Nr. 1)

Didn't even existed in our timeframe.

This has been discussed a lot already, in more dedicated thread, hence no need to hijack this one with this.

Hi! I hope to see Mouse tanks from Kursk or other interesant divisions. What you say abbaut dlc like Nemesis,but called,Continental? There to find some International divisions from Asia,Africa,South America,etc. Still i hope to see a battle between a Nipon division vs Chinesse division,and sure a maps dlc. SD2 is best than other games,inclusiv warno!

Yet more units and no gameplay changes in sight.

Another pass on my part. I have enough DLC with units and at a certain point, you've reached a point of diminishing returns. That point was reached two packs ago.

No move to 45, no prototypes, just...more infantry with air support. Like 6 other divisions on both sides already have.

No map editor.

No new modes.

Not even a conversion of some more maps to Destruction mode.

Nope.

80% of the time, this game is running in the background, on the division editor, while I watch movies anyway.

Автор сообщения: SidewalkOfPain

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We're delivering what the community voted for.

Actually, the one choice eliminated by vote with the more new units/models, Task Force 45, we've salvaged by our own decision to deliver in Tribute to Italy.

I have to say a couple maps especially some 10vs10 would be a big plus, maybe a Western Eruope map or 2?
I voted for raid on Dvar so I'm not going to complain :)

Автор сообщения: pericagal19 {E-G}

Smrt Fašizmu, Svoboda Narodu! <3

The comment the entire Steel Division 2 community expected from our dear friend Peri :)

Автор сообщения: Stahl

Автор сообщения: pericagal19 {E-G}

Smrt Fašizmu, Svoboda Narodu! <3

The comment the entire Steel Division 2 community expected from our dear friend Peri :)

^^

cool, but i still want to see the 14th SS ...would be great to add

Автор сообщения: Dieter

cool, but i still want to see the 14th SS ...would be great to add

and yes, no Armor within the 14th SS, but they assisted other divisions. Also part of the 14th SS had served in the Wiking Division for a period of time.

Even if no armor, would be fun for scenario play.

Автор сообщения: ＯＲＡＮＩＡ

admins PLS add the MOST FAMOUS SS divisions of:
1st Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler
2nd Das Reich
and Perhaps for some representation of the other ethnicities that fought with the axis:
23rd Nederland
(Niederländische Nr. 1)
28th Wallonien
27th Langemarck
(Flämische Nr. 1)
14th Galizische Nr. 1
33rd Charlemagne
(Französische Nr. 1)

These are respectively, Dutch, Wallonian, Flemish, Ukrainian and French SS Divisions - could be very interesting and add some diversity to the axis.

id love to see the 14th SS. That with a scenario editor...

Why do games always insist on only adding partizans acting like theyre the only ones who fought against the Germans, it would be nice for once to see a Royalist unit in a game also.

Also the part about Draza Mihailovic being an "Anti-Semite" and a "Facist" is completely disingenuous, if youre going to write a piece about Yugoslavia in WW2 atleast try to portay both sides in an accurate light instead of holding one on a pedastal and demonising the other for being abandoned by its allies and forced to collaborate to maintain the monarchist status quo, i mean for crying out loud the country collapsed because Regent Paul tried to ally with the Axis and was overthrown in a Coup which is the whole reason the Axis invaded Yugoslavia in the first place.

Автор сообщения: Dieter

cool, but i still want to see the 14th SS ...would be great to add

It was considered as potential Nemesis contender ... but dropped for it would really bring nothing new AND be under-equipped.

Автор сообщения: Turtlegom

Why do games always insist on only adding partizans acting like theyre the only ones who fought against the Germans, it would be nice for once to see a Royalist unit in a game also.

Also the part about Draza Mihailovic being an "Anti-Semite" and a "Facist" is completely disingenuous, if youre going to write a piece about Yugoslavia in WW2 atleast try to portay both sides in an accurate light instead of holding one on a pedastal and demonising the other for being abandoned by its allies and forced to collaborate to maintain the monarchist status quo, i mean for crying out loud the country collapsed because Regent Paul tried to ally with the Axis and was overthrown in a Coup which is the whole reason the Axis invaded Yugoslavia in the first place.

Yes, that's what I meant with my previous post deleted with many others.
It's hypocritical to tell a customer that fascination with military units shouldn't play a role, while gushing in a huge article about Tito's Partisans and smearing another faction.
Just be honest about what you like and what you include.

Didn't I actually mentionned the Chetniks fighting the German occupiers in the article?
Which is more than most piece about Yugoslav resistance do ...

Now, very factually:
* didn't the Chetniks actually sided with the Germans occasionally (and increasingly as the war went on) against Tito's partisans? Such as at Drvar with the Dinara Division[en.wikipedia.org] as a matter of fact ...
* didn't the Chetniks rounded up and handed Jews to the Germans (when not worst) in their sectors?

No need to start a full debate, just answer yes or no ...

Автор сообщения: Turtlegom

Why do games always insist on only adding partizans acting like theyre the only ones who fought against the Germans, it would be nice for once to see a Royalist unit in a game also.

As reminded above, I did mention the royalist resistance.
As for why not making them playable: because the Chetnik movement would be restricted to a few infantry, MGs & light mortars. Even Tito's partisans looked like a heavy division in terms of equipment compared to them.

Автор сообщения: Turtlegom

Why do games always insist on only adding partizans acting like theyre the only ones who fought against the Germans, it would be nice for once to see a Royalist unit in a game also.

Also the part about Draza Mihailovic being an "Anti-Semite" and a "Facist" is completely disingenuous, if youre going to write a piece about Yugoslavia in WW2 atleast try to portay both sides in an accurate light instead of holding one on a pedastal and demonising the other for being abandoned by its allies and forced to collaborate to maintain the monarchist status quo, i mean for crying out loud the country collapsed because Regent Paul tried to ally with the Axis and was overthrown in a Coup which is the whole reason the Axis invaded Yugoslavia in the first place.

In '44 Chetniks didn't fight against the Germans at all, and anyway very few Chetnik units would be playable in SD 2 due to poor equipment. Also, in the write-up MadMat didn't say Mihajlovic was Fascist (he wasn't) but that the Chetniks were Fascist leaning (they were, in deed if not in word). I am expecting all this to get deleted again, but I hope you see this anyway. It was actually a pretty good write up, sticking to the facts.

I can already see the airplane spam :P.
Seriously though this sounds like a fun devision to play on the right map.