SS das reich

[GarraJaguar]

What do you think of this division?
SS das reich

[RakkoHug~<3]

Oh, some of the community members inquired about Das Reich several months ago.

I believe Dr. MadMat said they are too similar to the existing SS divisions to be included in the game. :)

[seashell]

the criticism of burning baltics is that some divisions are just copy paste.
so what is stopping them from doing that if they can earn some wehraboo reichsmarks?
if that motivates them finally fix the urban map and release it that is still worthwhile.

[Magnus Aurelius, Bright Lord]

How are the BB divisions just copy paste ? They're all very different from other divisions, 7th Estonian and Panzerverband plays nothing like other divisions. What's stopping them is knowing that criticism is nonsense and that Das Reich would actually be a real copy paste.

[seashell]

so 52 sicherung is somehow unique instead of just koruck 559 on steroids?
after all these dlcs we can still not get a td leader even though it is already sitting in the armory for so long.

[Ëvïlnïck8 ゴゴゴ]

If it offers something new to the table then sure.

But in my option we dont really need any more divisions, even less so if its a German Panzergren & Panther armor division.

[GarraJaguar]

It would be similar but not the same, and that would make it easy to create it, and it would earn more $$ since many of us are fans of the German divisions

[Magnus Aurelius, Bright Lord]

Originally posted by seashell:

so 52 sicherung is somehow unique instead of just koruck 559 on steroids?

Yes. It has no tanks in phase A and only three in phase B. Making playing this division to be extremely different than Korcuk 559.

[Ser Maks]

As was answered before by Eugen, divisions like LSAAH, Das Reich or Totenkopf will never be available in multiplayer, due to their infamous history. I imagine that Oradour-sur-Glane alone is reason enough.

[sergejkorent]

Dass Reich could have been made in the Normandy Division DLC. And so from this division in multiplayer there is not much sense, since there are almost exact copies of both Hitlerjugend and Viking. Another thing is that if you take almost any division from the Army Group Center, which by separate units took part in anti-partisan punitive actions, then there was nothing to do at all this game according to this logic. During the entire period of the German occupation, the population in Belarus decreased by two million. Mostly due to the punitive actions of the Werhmaht.

Bloody game. Dass Reich in France smokes on the sidelines

[[EUG] MadMat]

Originally posted by GarraJaguar:

What do you think of this division?
SS das reich

There are few divisions we've stated we won't do in multiplayer, due to their unsavory background, and Das Reich is one of them, with Totenkopf & Dirlewanger.

[Quax]

Originally posted by EUG MadMat:

Originally posted by GarraJaguar:

What do you think of this division?
SS das reich

There are few divisions we've stated we won't do in multiplayer, due to their unsavory background, and Das Reich is one of them, with Totenkopf & Dirlewanger.

go youtube and search for
" russian veteran recalls their crimes in germany".
Then we can talk about warcrimes again and what divisons to bann,
Guess there will be some soviet divisions we should take a closer look too. Looking forward. Best regards

[[EUG] MadMat]

Go search any divisions/nations, and you'll find war crimes attached to their names.

The three I've singled out above are just not playing in the same league as all others.

Best regards.

[Quax]

Originally posted by EUG MadMat:

Go search any divisions/nations, and you'll find war crimes attached to their names.

The three I've singled out above are just not playing in the same league as all others.

Best regards.

can you show me Wehrmacht massraping towns with woman and children like in Königsberg or Berlin? Can you show german counterpart to soviet Ehrenburg orders ? By the way, can you tell me what ehrenburg wrote again`? I dont remember?
Best regards

[sergejkorent]

Originally posted by FerdBlu:

Originally posted by EUG MadMat:

There are few divisions we've stated we won't do in multiplayer, due to their unsavory background, and Das Reich is one of them, with Totenkopf & Dirlewanger.

go youtube and search for
" russian veteran recalls their crimes in germany".
Then we can talk about warcrimes again and what divisons to bann,
Guess there will be some soviet divisions we should take a closer look too. Looking forward. Best regards

I think it has to do with European education at school. For the simple reason that the French at school will go through SS war crimes on French territory. They will not be taught that the most large-scale punitive actions took place during the entire period of the occupation from all countries on the territory of Belarus, and as a result, a lot of Belarusians died. And this blood is on the hands of the Wehrmacht, first of all, since Germany did not have such a large number of security battalions and SS punitive detachments. Therefore, the Army was involved as far as the situation at the front allowed.

[[EUG] MadMat]

Originally posted by FerdBlu:

can you show me Wehrmacht massraping towns with woman and children like in Königsberg or Berlin?

Warsaw Uprising in 1944 immediatly comes to mind.

Originally posted by FerdBlu:

Can you show german counterpart to soviet Ehrenburg orders ? By the way, can you tell me what ehrenburg wrote again`? I dont remember?

I don't understand what you're trying to say ...

Originally posted by sergejkorent:

I think it has to do with European education at school.

In part, yes. Regarding Das Reich, it is true: it is the most infamous SS division in France, due to the bloody trail it left from Montauban to Normandy, especially in Tulle & Oradour-sur-Glane.
But it doesn't mean we don't know of its track records in the East, where it was famliar with such operations.

Originally posted by sergejkorent:

For the simple reason that the French at school will go through SS war crimes on French territory. They will not be taught that the most large-scale punitive actions took place during the entire period of the occupation from all countries on the territory of Belarus, and as a result, a lot of Belarusians died. And this blood is on the hands of the Wehrmacht, first of all, since Germany did not have such a large number of guard battalions and SS punitive detachments. Therefore, the Army was involved as far as the situation at the front allowed.

We learn about History outside of France borders, you know ... :)
I can even confirm that for having been a History teacher myself for a few years. ;)

And if you look at the three divisions I've singled out above, the two others (TTK & Dirlewanger) operated mostly on the Eastern Front.